NoLifeNoPain

NoLifeNoPain

Dinosaur
Jun 17, 2018
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No, but today while I was meditating I heard a voice telling me "It's okay, it's your choice". Weird :I But yeah regardless if NDE are hallucinations or real, you'll experience it especially if you'll die by asphyxia like me (DMT releases in the brain before death).
 
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creatureoflight

Mage
Jul 27, 2018
531
go read on the site near-death.com and on NDERF, loads of NDEs there and many with profound insights
 
Justanotherconsumer

Justanotherconsumer

Paragon
Jul 9, 2018
974
If you want to have a chance at your own obe/nde get some nitrous oxide. In my opinion these are real experiences, however that's not to say that it still could be a product of the brain (just not understood). If successful you experience complete separation of consciousness from the body,floating ect., Not at all dream like, it feels as real as this reality.
 
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creatureoflight

Mage
Jul 27, 2018
531
If you want to have a chance at your own obe/nde get some nitrous oxide. In my opinion these are real experiences, however that's not to say that it still could be a product of the brain (just not understood). If successful you experience complete separation of consciousness from the body,floating ect., Not at all dream like, it feels as real as this reality.

Actually some people get NDEs on ketamine, they are very similar but different from true NDEs. There have been experiments on this
 
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Comatose11

Mage
Jul 26, 2018
576
Some studies suggest they are nothing more than hallucinations and your brain playing tricks on you. I haven't had one but have heard of people who have been in cardiac arrest and said it was nothingness.
 
shattered dreams

shattered dreams

Student
Jun 5, 2018
132
Some studies suggest they are nothing more than hallucinations and your brain playing tricks on you. I haven't had one but have heard of people who have been in cardiac arrest and said it was nothingness.

There is no way anyone could recall experiencing "nothingness." Nothingness would mean no consciousness. I had liposuction back in 2002, and I remember being told that I was being put under and then I was immediately experiencing pain from the surgery with no time in between. Even though I was put under for 2-3 hours, I had no recollection of that time. That is what nothingness is. To put it another way, if reincarnation was real, you could die and be dead for a million years. You could then be reincarnated into a baby. To you, it would feel if you transitioned instantly from your body to a baby.
 
NoLifeNoPain

NoLifeNoPain

Dinosaur
Jun 17, 2018
1,537
Here's my theory on unconsciousness. It doesn't exist. It's time travel. WOHOHOHO. When you go to sleep for example, you don't become unconscious, you just have a different experience of time.
 
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Comatose11

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Jul 26, 2018
576
There is no way anyone could recall experiencing "nothingness." Nothingness would mean no consciousness. I had liposuction back in 2002, and I remember being told that I was being put under and then I was immediately experiencing pain from the surgery with no time in between. Even though I was put under for 2-3 hours, I had no recollection of that time. That is what nothingness is. To put it another way, if reincarnation was real, you could die and be dead for a million years. You could then be reincarnated into a baby. To you, it would feel if you transitioned instantly from your body to a baby.

What they mean by nothingness is just what you described. They remember some moment before they lost consciousness and then remember waking up later in a hospital or whatever. I know what nothingness is, thank you very much.
 
NoLifeNoPain

NoLifeNoPain

Dinosaur
Jun 17, 2018
1,537
I’m a little skeptical. I don’t think an afterlife or reincarnation makes any logical sense. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.
We are energy processed by the brain. What do you think happens to this energy after the body dies, it magically dissappears?
 
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Comatose11

Mage
Jul 26, 2018
576
We are energy processed by the brain. What do you think happens to this energy after the body dies, it magically dissappears?

I think it will go somewhere, but not in an afterlife. I believe our unconsciousness ceases to exist because our brains are what causes consciousness. I don’t believe we have a soul.
 
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NoLifeNoPain

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I think it will go somewhere, but not in an afterlife. I believe our unconsciousness seizes to exist because our brains are what causes consciousness. I don’t believe we have a soul.
Well whatever happens is better than being here, can we agree on that?
 
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Comatose11

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Well whatever happens is better than being here, can we agree on that?

Just about. Recincarnartion would be the worst scenario. But an afterlife wouldn’t be much better than on earth unless we could choose everything about it.