chronicpainnomore

chronicpainnomore

Not Circling the Drain Anymore
May 31, 2018
310
Sonnenblume posted this update from PPeH before she CTB this week (using SN I understand):

PPeH Update on Sodium Nitrite:

Here are the main things.
1. The dosage has been upped to 15g in 50-100ml water
2. All talk of baking soda or phytic acid as potentiates have been removed
3. Now it is recommended to take 800mg of Tagamet (cimetidine) 30 min before taking SN, this reduces the production rate of gastric acid.
4. Anti-emetic 30 minutes before is still recommended

Here are the results of the monitored death study they did. The person took 15g in 100ml of water
1. At 3 min drowsy
2. At 5 min very drowsy but responsive
3. At 12 min unconscious
4. At 15 min deep sleep/unrousable
5. At 25 minutes steady increasing cyanosis, shallow breathing
6. Death at 35 minutes
 
CantGoOn

CantGoOn

Member
Jun 7, 2018
73
Sonnenblume posted this update from PPeH before she CTB this week (using SN I understand):

PPeH Update on Sodium Nitrite:

Here are the main things.
1. The dosage has been upped to 15g in 50-100ml water
2. All talk of baking soda or phytic acid as potentiates have been removed
3. Now it is recommended to take 800mg of Tagamet (cimetidine) 30 min before taking SN, this reduces the production rate of gastric acid.
4. Anti-emetic 30 minutes before is still recommended

Here are the results of the monitored death study they did. The person took 15g in 100ml of water
1. At 3 min drowsy
2. At 5 min very drowsy but responsive
3. At 12 min unconscious
4. At 15 min deep sleep/unrousable
5. At 25 minutes steady increasing cyanosis, shallow breathing
6. Death at 35 minutes

Thank you for better insight.
 
Azure

Azure

Little Chemist
Jun 13, 2018
135
Yeah, It does seem like a type of medication a doctor would have no problem with prescribing.
I'm not sure if just going to the doctor saying you have horrible nausea is enough to get you an antiemetic strong enough for SN's supposedly horrid taste. Was about to make a post about this just in case there's someone here who knows, but Im a bit hesitant...
 
T

Tintagel

Member
Jun 17, 2018
10
Sonnenblume posted this update from PPeH before she CTB this week (using SN I understand):

PPeH Update on Sodium Nitrite:

Here are the main things.
1. The dosage has been upped to 15g in 50-100ml water
2. All talk of baking soda or phytic acid as potentiates have been removed
3. Now it is recommended to take 800mg of Tagamet (cimetidine) 30 min before taking SN, this reduces the production rate of gastric acid.
4. Anti-emetic 30 minutes before is still recommended

Here are the results of the monitored death study they did. The person took 15g in 100ml of water
1. At 3 min drowsy
2. At 5 min very drowsy but responsive
3. At 12 min unconscious
4. At 15 min deep sleep/unrousable
5. At 25 minutes steady increasing cyanosis, shallow breathing
6. Death at 35 minutes
 
Azure

Azure

Little Chemist
Jun 13, 2018
135
wish i knew how much anti emetic sonnenblume took .
im not taking sn though hopefully N if i can gather the courage to take it ,its not easy thats for sure
Im actually curious for this too. Never used an antiemetic in my life and I really dunno how they work. Anyone with experience knows? Should I take some a couple hours before I ctb, too?
 
El Topo

El Topo

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Apr 21, 2018
480
wish i knew how much anti emetic sonnenblume took .
im not taking sn though hopefully N if i can gather the courage to take it ,its not easy thats for sure

Sonnenblume took metoclopramide. I don't know the exact amount, but probably around 40 mg. At Dignitas, they take 30 mg metoclopramide before drinking N.

Im actually curious for this too. Never used an antiemetic in my life and I really dunno how they work. Anyone with experience knows? Should I take some a couple hours before I ctb, too?

Anti-emetics are recommended when CTBing with any ingested substance, whether it's N, SN, opiates, tricyclic antidepresssants, etc. Throwing up is the body's natural defense reaction when taking a lethal substance. Even people who OD from injecting heroin usually throw up.

I have experience with D2-receptor antagonist anti-emetics since I've tried them in the past for a digestive condition. The most commonly-used medications in this class are metoclopramide and domperidone, but theoretically any D2-receptor antagonist should work. (All antipsychotics are D2-antagonists.) Metoclopramide is also a 5HT3-receptor antagonist, so it has 2 modes of function.

The various euthanasia guides have different recommendations when it comes to anti-emetics, so it's not an exact science. Some guides even say that you should start taking them 48 hours before CTBing, but I don't think that's necessary. At Dignitas, they take a single dose an hour before drinking N.

The typical dosages for people who take metoclopramide and domperidone for medical reasons is 10-20 mg 3x per day, so up to 60 mg per day. So you can use that as a general guideline.
 
angie

angie

need to exit
May 25, 2018
483
Sonnenblume took metoclopramide. I don't know the exact amount, but probably around 40 mg. At Dignitas, they take 30 mg metoclopramide before drinking N.



Anti-emetics are recommended when CTBing with any ingested substance, whether it's N, SN, opiates, tricyclic antidepresssants, etc. Throwing up is the body's natural defense reaction when taking a lethal substance. Even people who OD from injecting heroin usually throw up.

I have experience with D2-receptor antagonist anti-emetics since I've tried them in the past for a digestive condition. The most commonly-used medications in this class are metoclopramide and domperidone, but theoretically any D2-receptor antagonist should work. (All antipsychotics are D2-antagonists.) Metoclopramide is also a 5HT3-receptor antagonist, so it has 2 modes of function.

The various euthanasia guides have different recommendations when it comes to anti-emetics, so it's not an exact science. Some guides even say that you should start taking them 48 hours before CTBing, but I don't think that's necessary. At Dignitas, they take a single dose an hour before drinking N.

The typical dosages for people who take metoclopramide and domperidone for medical reasons is 10-20 mg 3x per day, so up to 60 mg per day. So you can use that as a general guideline.
do you think taking 60mg at once is too much then as ppeh recommends that but dignitas uses 30mg paspertin liquid not sure if liquid is stronger
 
worldexploder

worldexploder

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Sep 19, 2018
2,823
If I had a choice between N and SN I’d go for N easily! No questions asked. Unfortunately it’s harder to obtain.

SN is not a sedative like Nembutal. With Nembutal you peacefully go to sleep then die some 40 minutes later.

Symptoms of SN can include - severe headache, severe stomach cramps, rapid heart rate and possible seizures. I am not knocking the method for people who want to go out that way. Just giving a comparison.