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I have an elastic rope which can stretch upto 25-30% of it's original length. Will this rope work for partial suspension or should I use something else?
 
Definitelyworried

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I don't know but I think I read somewhere that the rope is better if it's not elastic.
I don't remember the reason about that though.
 
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You could but it's not ideal. People hang themselves with all sorts of mediocre ligatures if they have enough desire to die. I can't imagine a stretchy rope would work well enough to make you pass out without intense blood build up from not fully closing the carotids which would make it very painful. I doubt you have the willpower to withstand that intense pain, it's hard enough to do with minimal pain. It's easy enough to practice with this method in my experience without dying.
 
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An elastic rope is fine as long as you calculate the drop correctly. But I imagine it would be insanely hard to calculate the drop correctly with an elastic rope. It would be much better to just use normal rope. There are different ways to die from a rope though. You should read about them. If you hang yourself and your neck doesn't snap or you don't become decapitated, you will die slowly and painfully. Death by strangulation is not a good way to leave this world.

https://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/death-dying/death-by-hanging.htm
 
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An elastic rope is fine as long as you calculate the drop correctly. But I imagine it would be insanely hard to calculate the drop correctly with an elastic rope. It would be much better to just use normal rope. There are different ways to die from a rope though. You should read about them. If you hang yourself and your neck doesn't snap or you don't become decapitated, you will die slowly and painfully. Death by strangulation is not a good way to leave this world.

https://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/death-dying/death-by-hanging.htm

You're talking full suspension, OP is talking partial.

Also, an elastic rope for full suspension would be really silly and i'd wager less than 1% of full suspension hangings are long drop hangings with neck breaks as you describe.

You don't know what your talking about. Not trying to be mean but you are not properly informed/researched.
 
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You're talking full suspension, OP is talking partial.

Also, an elastic rope for full suspension would be really silly and i'd wager less than 1% of full suspension hangings are long drop hangings with neck breaks as you describe.

You don't know what your talking about. Not trying to be mean but you are not properly informed/researched.

What I said is backed up by many sources. So it looks like you are just being an asshole towards me unless all the sources I read were written to be misinformation.
 
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What I said is backed up by many sources. So it looks like you are just being an asshole towards me unless all the sources I encountered were written to be misinformation.

Your source is talking about judicial hangings (executions). Like I said, long drop hangings are incredibly rare with suicide. In the case of a long drop hanging one would NEVER use a stretchy rope.

Also, the OP wasn't talking about full suspension hanging be it long drop or short drop, he was talking about partial.

None of the sources you referenced were incorrect, you just relayed them to the question incorrectly. I have no clue who you are why would I want to be an asshole. You were simply wrong.
 
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Your source is talking about judicial hangings (executions). Like I said, long drop hangings are incredibly rare with suicide. In the case of a long drop hanging one would NEVER use a stretchy rope.

Also, the OP wasn't talking about full suspension hanging be it long drop or short drop, he was talking about partial.

None of the sources you referenced were incorrect, you just relayed them to the question incorrectly.

If nothing I said was incorrect and I just failed to read the OP's initial post 100% then saying I don't know what I'm talking about is you being an asshole. EDIT: Because I actually do know what the fuck I am talking about. I just failed to read the OP's initial post 100%.
 
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If nothing I said was incorrect and I just failed to read the OP's initial post 100% then saying I don't know what I'm talking about is you being an asshole.

Dude, your annoying. I will call you an idiot now because you've called me an asshole twice. Read my posts again to see how ill informed your posts were. If you can't see you were wrong, then idk what else to say.
 
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Dude, your annoying. I will call you an idiot now because you've called me an asshole twice. Read my posts again to see how ill informed your posts were. If you can't see you were wrong, then idk what else to say.
I called you an asshole twice because you are an asshole 110% and technically that doesn't make me an idiot but someone who is simply observant when it comes to assholes. It's not that hard to spot your kind. Show me exactly what I said that is wrong. You can't. Because I didn't say anything wrong. All I did was respond to the OP as if he was talking about hanging himself instead of hanging himself via partial suspension.
 
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Firstly, you said it would be fine to use a stretchy rope for long drop hanging, ie to break your neck that right off is idiotic. Long drop hanging is incredibly rare as well, it's almost unseen outside of executions.

Secondly, the question was never about full suspension, it mentions partial right in the title.

Thirdly, you say strangulation is a terrible way to leave this world. Partial suspension hanging is not incredibly painful at all, it's more uncomfortable. If it's incredibly painful your not doing it properly.
 
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Firstly, you said it would be fine to use a stretchy rope for long drop hanging, ie to break your neck that right off is idiotic. Long drop hanging is incredibly rare as well, it's almost unseen outside of executions.

Secondly, the question was never about full suspension, it mentions partial right in the title.

Thirdly, you say strangulation is a terrible way to leave this world. Partial suspension hanging is not incredibly painful at all, it's more uncomfortable. If it's incredibly painful your not doing it properly.

"Firstly, you said it would be fine to use a stretchy rope for long drop hanging, ie to break your neck that right off is idiotic."
So you are saying an elastic rope can not break your neck? Do you have any proof of this?

"Long drop hanging is incredibly rare as well, it's almost unseen outside of executions."
I never said long drop hangings aren't incredibly rare in the first fucking place so why are you even talking about the rarity of long drop hangings?

"Secondly, the question was never about full suspension, it mentions partial right in the title."
That doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about but simply means, I failed to read the OP's initial post 100%.

"Thirdly, you say strangulation is a terrible way to leave this world. Partial suspension hanging is not incredibly painful at all, it's more uncomfortable. If it's incredibly painful your not doing it properly."
My words on strangulation were "you will die slowly and painfully. Death by strangulation is not a good way to leave this world." There are many sources that say death by strangulation is A) slow and B) painful. And in my opinion, a slow and painful death is not a good way to leave this world. Show me sources that say death by strangulation is not slow and painful and I will admit I was wrong about death by strangulation.
 
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Firstly, you said it would be fine to use a stretchy rope for long drop hanging, ie to break your neck that right off is idiotic. Long drop hanging is incredibly rare as well, it's almost unseen outside of executions.

Secondly, the question was never about full suspension, it mentions partial right in the title.

Thirdly, you say strangulation is a terrible way to leave this world. Partial suspension hanging is not incredibly painful at all, it's more uncomfortable. If it's incredibly painful your not doing it properly.

Here is a quote from the source I posted above. "Strangulation can take several minutes and is a far more excruciating experience. The carotid arteries in the neck, which supply blood to the brain, are compressed, and the brain swells so much it ends up plugging the top of the spinal column; the Vagal nerve is pinched, leading to something called the Vagal reflex, which stops the heart; and the lack of oxygen getting to the lungs due to compression of the trachea eventually causes loss of consciousness due to suffocation. Death then follows in the same pattern as it does when the neck breaks, with the entire process ending in anywhere from five to 20 minutes."
 
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Why recommend a completely rare suicide method such as long drop hanging in the first place? No one with knowledge on suicide hangings would ever even talk about such a method.

Could a stretchy rope break ones neck, sure but it's idiotic to ok it. You could die jumping from a 3rd floor window but people don't recommend that.

Ligature strangulation or partial suspension hanging is used so often because it's relatively pain free.

I'm not going to do all your homework for you. You clearly didn't know what you were talking about and threw a hissy fit when I called you out on your terrible advice.
 
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Why recommend a completely rare suicide method such as long drop hanging in the first place? No one with knowledge on suicide hangings would ever even talk about such a method.

Could a stretchy rope break ones neck, sure but it's idiotic to ok it. You could die jumping from a 3rd floor window but people don't recommend that.

Ligature strangulation or partial suspension hanging is used so often because it's relatively pain free.

I'm not going to do all your homework for you. You clearly didn't know what you were talking about and threw a hissy fit when I called you out on your terrible advice.

"Why recommend a completely rare suicide method such as long drop hanging in the first place?"
I didn't recommend it. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Where did I say, you should kill yourself by using the long drop hanging method?

"No one with knowledge on suicide hangings would ever even talk about such a method."
That is just your opinion.

"Ligature strangulation or partial suspension hanging is used so often because it's relatively pain free."
So I'm supposed to just take your word for it?

"I'm not going to do all your homework for you. You clearly didn't know what you were talking about and threw a hissy fit when I called you out on your terrible advice."
So basically you have nothing to back up anything you've said... So basically, you bullied me for no good reason by saying I'm ignorant in this thread, I called you out on your bullying by calling you an asshole and then you decided to double down on you bullying me previously as if you are a spoiled 8 year old kid.
 
Severen

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Could a stretchy rope break ones neck, sure but it's idiotic to ok it. You could die jumping from a 3rd floor window but people don't recommend that.

How is it idiotic if it can function the same way, normal rope can as long as you do the math correctly?
 
Jon86

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Take care bud, i'm not interested in continuing this conversation. You don't just have a chip on your shoulder you got an entire sawmill.
 
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I have an elastic rope which can stretch upto 25-30% of it's original length. Will this rope work for partial suspension or should I use something else?

Elasticity would just be one more thing you'd need to take into consideration. Would the pressure end up being enough? Would the material cause more pain while it's moving around? I'd go with non-stretchy rope just to be safe. Don't forget to protect your trachea so the rope doesn't cut into it. Worst fucking pain I've ever felt. Good luck.
 
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I´m sure it would be a painful way, caue the rope would get longer and longer instead of putting pressure to your neck and stop bloodflow. I t would be a slow and painful strangulation.
 
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Will nylon rope do the job?

It should, just buy one that isn't super thin to avoid it breaking. It will stretch a bit, I have one along with a static climbing rope and the nylon rope definitely stretches a bit.
 
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It should, just buy one that isn't super thin to avoid it breaking. It will stretch a bit, I have one along with a static climbing rope and the nylon rope definitely stretches a bit.

Got it, going to grab at least 18mm thick. Thanks!