Efilismislife

Efilismislife

Psychopath family tortured me
May 25, 2021
535
Just wondering if i can get an unbias opinion here trying, to collect datas.
because IRL cant really ask about this and also cant get unbias opinion.


if theres a child in a family being abused by family member, growing up in abusive environment, feeling scared, threatened, constantly insecure(mentally&physically hurt&harm) and life is ruined because of that
in short, being taken as a human sacrifice which not allowed to obtain happiness, a good life/future and only to suffer

arent parents who took the child into the abusive environment supposed to be responsible? Isnt it the parents role to maintain a safety environment in the home?

instead the parents supporting the abuse and blaming the child instead and saying the child should understand and take it and be happy because religion also said to sacrifice

The parents is feeding the child, giving shelter, clothes, etc basic needs, spend money for that. so even though the child is suffering/tormented because of the abuse, the parents not wrong, its the rule that children should obey the parents(isnt it like a farm animal though....)

Is the parents morally right? Is that how good parents supposed to treat their child?
Is that a good family environment that most child would want/a good environment for children to grow up?

Is the child supposed to be thankful/ will you be thankfully happy ?

or is it normal for the child to be angry and depressed?


The reason i ask because sometimes i feel somewhat conflicted. What i think is right is constantly being condemn. So sometimed im confused whats right and whats wrong anymore
 
Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

Falls in love
Nov 25, 2021
769
Parents are responsible for their children. Abusing and manipulating children is morally wrong. Children should grow up in a good environment. A child should not be guilt-tripped into being thankful if they were abused. If normal means what is expected outcome, then I would expect the child to be angry and/or depressed about the situation.

Toxic families suck, the answer is always to get away from the family, sadly.

"Just wondering if i can get an unbias opinion here trying, to collect datas.
because IRL cant really ask about this and also cant get unbias opinion."
"The reason i ask because sometimes i feel somewhat conflicted. What i think is right is constantly being condemn. So sometimed im confused whats right and whats wrong anymore."
This is relatable, so don't worry, your family making you feel confused is how they control you. Hopefully nobody questions why you're asking all this, because this is what is 'normal' for someone to feel in your situation, it's 'normal' to feel confused and try to question the insane situation pressed on you by asking why things aren't as they should be. The truth is, your thoughts are about how things should be are sane, rational and correct, but your family will try to make you feel like you're the crazy one to keep you under control and not questioning the situation whether its religious abuse or any other kind of abuse.

I have a toxic family too. Get away from them if you can, at least don't let them affect and interfere with your life. It's your life, not theirs.
 
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Efilismislife

Efilismislife

Psychopath family tortured me
May 25, 2021
535
Thank you for your opinion and sharing your thoughts

unfortunately im trapped, im weak& alone, they have the power and i have to deal with all of the sufferings. some unfortunate people dont really have a choice arent they...

But some people condemn saying its our own fault for not being able to save ourselves...

thats why wanting to quit this "curse/hell" seems to be rational but its also hard to escape this world

i also still cant accept if i ctb after being taken since a child to become a human sacrifice
its like its my fault and i have to kms
and those perpetrator dancing happily on my grave

but still i wonder if quitting is better than enduring
Parents are responsible for their children. Abusing and manipulating children is morally wrong. Children should grow up in a good environment. A child should not be guilt-tripped into being thankful if they were abused. If normal means what is expected outcome, then I would expect the child to be angry and/or depressed about the situation.

Toxic families suck, the answer is always to get away from the family, sadly.


This is relatable, so don't worry, your family making you feel confused is how they control you. Hopefully nobody questions why you're asking all this, because this is what is 'normal' for someone to feel in your situation, it's 'normal' to feel confused and try to question the insane situation pressed on you by asking why things aren't as they should be. The truth is, your thoughts are about how things should be are sane, rational and correct, but your family will try to make you feel like you're the crazy one to keep you under control and not questioning the situation whether its religious abuse or any other kind of abuse.

I have a toxic family too. Get away from them if you can, at least don't let them affect and interfere with your life. It's your life, not theirs.
 
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Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

Falls in love
Nov 25, 2021
769
But some people condemn saying its our own fault for not being able to save ourselves...
Relatable. Those people come from normal families and aren't specialised in the dynamics of family psychiatry. It's very easy for others to judge people on a situation they've never been in themselves. I'm not sure what the reason is, but I suspect its related to learned helplessness, especially because these abuses tend to occur throughout childhood and beyond when you literally have little agency or control over the events. There's also literally no way to control what family you have, if you are born into an abusive family that's what you get stuck with, sadly.
thats why wanting to quit this "curse/hell" seems to be rational but its also hard to escape this world
I know exactly where you're coming from.

It's not your fault. I don't know if quitting or enduring is better, in a way, I wish I had died a long time ago. Unfortunately for me survival instinct is very high, I don't know if its the same for you. It might be the same pattern for many people with toxic family.
 
rainwillneverstop

rainwillneverstop

Serious health hazard
Jul 12, 2022
93
are they responsible? yes.
but holding on to that grudge is both a waste of energy and time.
The best is to get out of such household, the sooner the better. Reach out before you become numb and silent, it will happen.
 
Efilismislife

Efilismislife

Psychopath family tortured me
May 25, 2021
535
are they responsible? yes.
but holding on to that grudge is both a waste of energy and time.
The best is to get out of such household, the sooner the better. Reach out before you become numb and silent, it will happen.
If i have that option to save myself i wouldnt have come to this place in the first place to find a way to ctb nor posting here

Not so many people are lucky enough to have that option, let alone a solution
 
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