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    In light of recent events, all community members in the US should reach out to their representative in regards to the Stop Online Suicide Assistance Forums Act that has been introduced in congress. This bill, if passed, could criminalize this community and hold it liable for simply hosting information.

    You should be able to locate and contact your represenative by going to this website. You can also contact Lori Trahan, the one spearheading this bill by calling her office at (202) 225-3411 or by leaving a message on the contact form on her site.

    One of the best ways to combat this is to make your voice heard. We're not political activists, but we made this notice to let you know that you do have a voice and that you do have representives that represent you in congress.
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lemonhoney

Member
Sep 29, 2022
55
Have ppl been hospitalized for sharing about joining this forum with ur therapist ? USA
 
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WhatPowerIs

Wizard
Jun 19, 2022
662
I'm too scared to tell them out of fear they will institutionalize me but I feel like they will only do that if I were showing any immediate signs of danger.
 
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lemonhoney

Member
Sep 29, 2022
55
I'm too scared to tell them out of fear they will institutionalize me but I feel like they will only do that if I were showing any immediate signs of danger.
Yeahhhh the “immediate signs of danger” is like what scares me. Like, do I have to have a knife to my throat orrrr is joining this community an immediate sign of danger. Questionable
 
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SectOfValtiel

Attendant of God
Nov 7, 2022
112
I just had an appointment with mine this morning and... no, I didnt tell him
I thought about mentioning it in vague terms, but I was too scared Id have to explain it or itd come off as suspicious if I didnt go into detail
He still doesnt know the extent of my suicidal ideation, doesnt know how much Ive contemplated it over the past year, because Ive always been too scared of being institutionalized to be honest about it

And I do feel guilty for it
Like hes clearly trying to help me and Im lying through my teeth
 
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Mtnwildflowers

Student
Jan 14, 2022
176
I told my therapist. At that time I had been seeing her for four years and had been both chronically and actively suicidal at times during that time which wasn’t new for me (spans 20 years or so). She didn’t do anything. We talked about it a little. She said a couple things that included “those people on that forum aren’t real friends” and “we both already know you know how to kill yourself” and we also briefly talked about psychiatric euthanasia.
Yeahhhh the “immediate signs of danger” is like what scares me. Like, do I have to have a knife to my throat orrrr is joining this community an immediate sign of danger. Questionable
It’s not an immediate sign unless you share you currently have the means in your possession and have intent to use it. Or basically some form of showing intent that’s different for you. If it’s a therapist that doesn’t know you, they are going to error on the side of caution probably if you say I am acquiring the means and at least put you on a 72 hour involuntary hold to evaluate or send you to get evaluated at a psych ER if available in your city. But then if it’s USA you can get released by just playing the game of inpatient and go do what you want in a lot of cases if you aren’t at risk of going to hurt other people or active severe psychosis. If your therapist knows you long term, that’s probably going to be different. See my other comment about telling mine . She did nothing
 
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chloramine

Experienced
Apr 18, 2022
299
I did. I’m in Canada not the States, but obviously there are many similarities. She did seem somewhat concerned about the fact that method information was available, but overall she was very supportive of my engaging with other people. I didn’t say SS by name just that it was an online forum.
 
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WhatPowerIs

Wizard
Jun 19, 2022
662
And I do feel guilty for it
Like hes clearly trying to help me and Im lying through my teeth
Please dont feel too much guilt because I havent been very honest with my counselor about this either, the extent of my suicidal ideation, in fear of being institutionalized or my parents being informed somehow or something like that
 
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lemonhoney

Member
Sep 29, 2022
55
Thanks everyone. I’ll probably do a bit of lying to feel safer but will be thinking hard on this before I share..
 
BipolarExpress

BipolarExpress

he/him · tired/exhausted
Nov 11, 2022
231
I'd never tell my therapist about it. I've already been to the psych ward this year; I don't care to repeat the experience.
 
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lili

Experienced
Feb 17, 2022
264
I've talked to my therapist a lot about the website I think at this point is very well known and I have also talked a lot about SN. But I think it depends on what therapist you have, understand how he is and the longer the relationship the more you understand each other. Mine I've talked a lot about suicide and done a few overdoses and he hasn't sent me to the emergency room yet but he told me next time I overdose he will. I always tell him that I don't have a current way of killing myself which is true I really don't technically have a way I could successfully end things that wouldn't be in a very extreme manner. Because he knows that I don't like pain.
 
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willitpass

Wizard
Mar 10, 2020
673
i think i did tell my therapist when i was in residential, i was very honest about everything while i was there, i was stuck there either way. we never elaborated on it specifically and i never named the website. we both knew if i wanted to come back to it i could and would, nothing more to be said. with my current therapist, i am no longer wishing to seek help, im only continuing it because my family would be extremely worried about me if i wasn’t in it. she doesn’t even know that i’ve been suicidal for around three consecutive months, she thinks im doing very well right now. she will im sure be very thrown off guard when she hears about my death
 
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Regen

Student
Aug 20, 2020
162
Just today I talked to her again about the forum. I do not mentioned the name, I want to be anonym and I want to protect my hidden home.

But she know about my visit and what we are talking about. It helps me really A LOT to talk about my suicide wishes with her. But I think about what I tell her and what I did not tell.

I always make sure that I say very clearly that I don't currently want to kill myself and that I won't kill myself. And that I will definitely manage to survive until the next therapy session.

And I have to say that we have known each other for five years now and I know how far I can trust her. And she knows that she can trust me.

Today, though, she was a little more concerned than usual because I spoke a little more openly than before. I then had to promise her in my hand that we will see each other next week. But I think that's perfectly fine, I can understand that she needs some security for herself, I would also find it hard in her place. She is a good human.

If I were in the phase that I know for sure I will leave soon, I would not tell her about the forum. But at the moment I have to try to go on living and then it helps to be able to tell about the part of me that doesn't want to live and that would like to kill itself soon.

So, yes I tell about it, but not completely uncontrolled. And it helps me to tell about it, even if it is difficult and sometimes I don't want to.
 
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catsandrocks

Nature Lover
Nov 11, 2022
14
I told mine about it by name, and I've talked about my specific posts and comments. I really like the type of therapy I'm in because hospitalization is extremely, extremely rare. When I was with my past psychologist, he admitted me (I think?) around 5-7 times for inpatient (so sorry, it's all a bit of a blur). With my current therapist, I have been able to share quite literally every part of my experience without inpatient. I've definitely shared more with my current therapist than with my past psychologist. The idea around it is that constant hospitalizations and absolutely guaranteed safety won't give you a life worth living. It prides itself on a program that prioritizes making a life worth living versus suicide prevention alone.

(It's called comprehensive DBT btw, since I think that idea would appeal to a lot of you all. I would recommend seeing someone with an LBC.)
 
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Lawliet

b a n g
Sep 15, 2020
284
I told mine about it by name, and I've talked about my specific posts and comments. I really like the type of therapy I'm in because hospitalization is extremely, extremely rare. When I was with my past psychologist, he admitted me (I think?) around 5-7 times for inpatient (so sorry, it's all a bit of a blur). With my current therapist, I have been able to share quite literally every part of my experience without inpatient. I've definitely shared more with my current therapist than with my past psychologist. The idea around it is that constant hospitalizations and absolutely guaranteed safety won't give you a life worth living. It prides itself on a program that prioritizes making a life worth living versus suicide prevention alone.

(It's called comprehensive DBT btw, since I think that idea would appeal to a lot of you all. I would recommend seeing someone with an LBC.)
never get too comfy with any mental health professional. they care more about covering their asses than what’s genuinely best for you.

i have to be honest worth anyone who shares this site by name, it’s a bad idea. that means more eyes on us and more liability. a provider could also track down your posts and use them against you. any info you share can be weaponized.

mental health professionals are the ones lawmakers turn to when making laws about mental health (pretty obvious). we already have this bill looming over our heads in the usa to make suicide instruction online illegal.

how is this not more obvious. it’s a fool’s game to name this site anywhere. it’s dangerous. please don’t fuck it up for the rest of us just because you got chummy with your therapist.
 
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noname223

Illuminated
Aug 18, 2020
3,031
I told him I am in a suicide forum. It is complicated I also have talked with other therapists a little bit about it. But I did not mention the name.
The reactions were heterogenous. It always depended in which mood I was. When I was acute suicidal they were concerned.

Though I told my last therapist that it helps me to cope with loneliness, suicidal thoughts, I use it as a valve etc. He said he trusts me. And did not wanted to change my opinion on it.

I think I did not experience a lot of negative repercussions for talking about suicide with them. The people here have the notion one would immediately be put in the psych ward. This is usually does not happen just by mentioning suicidality at least according to my experiences.
 
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Regen

Student
Aug 20, 2020
162
Today we talked about suicide again. She told me her borderline: If I can promise, that we see us the next date we made and If she had the feeling, that this is the truth I promise, then she is fine with me. But if not she have no choice then call the emergency.

I think that's a fair deal. I understand her situation. Maybe I would act the same way. It's one thing beeing pro choice but the other seeing someone I know dieing.

She know, that it is always possible that I am committing suicide impulsive. But she wants to be sure that I am not planning my suicide while beeing in therapy. She is a good person and I respect and understand her border.

What a pitty, that there is no help with death for suicidal people, that there is no one next to us while dieing.
 
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Moonomyth

Student
Feb 6, 2020
130
I have done so obliquely, without mentioning the specific board, only mentioning that I found pro-suicide fora more helpful for recovery than traditional recovery sites or hotlines on the basis that I felt like I wouldn't get bullshit like the traditional sites. They took this information reasonably well.
never get too comfy with any mental health professional. they care more about covering their asses than what’s genuinely best for you.

i have to be honest worth anyone who shares this site by name, it’s a bad idea. that means more eyes on us and more liability. a provider could also track down your posts and use them against you. any info you share can be weaponized.

mental health professionals are the ones lawmakers turn to when making laws about mental health (pretty obvious). we already have this bill looming over our heads in the usa to make suicide instruction online illegal.

how is this not more obvious. it’s a fool’s game to name this site anywhere. it’s dangerous. please don’t fuck it up for the rest of us just because you got chummy with your therapist.
I have to second this. You can pretty easily speak about this place in vague terms and there's not much reason to mention it by name.
 
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Ali25

Member
Dec 17, 2021
13
How to get sn in UK? Very desperate everything is blocked. Would do anything ro know please dm .me