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JealousOfTheElderly

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Do you believe there will be a need world order where there will be a one world government and world currency? power will be centralized and a select few billionaires or corporations will rule us?
 
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While I do believe those in charge want as much power as they can get to do nothing but hurt the populace, I think other countries are all run by people who want to be "the one", no sharing. Even on "world uniting issues" there is always something going on that shows the fractures.
 
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Julgran

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Do you believe there will be a need world order where there will be a one world government and world currency? power will be centralized and a select few billionaires or corporations will rule us?

The term "New World Order" has nothing to do with conspiracies or conspiracy theories, originally. In reality, a "New World Order" is a political term, which for example can mean - if you take World World II as an example - if the Axis powers would win, that would mean that there would be a "New World Order" in accordance with the Axis powers' wills, since the world would function differently compared to before World War II.

However, the term "New World Order" is often used when talking about conspiracies today, and most notably about The Illuminati, The Bilderberg Group and similar constellations. Personally, I don't believe that we need to reach that far, even, because the World Economic Forum has made it amply clear that they, basically, wish to bring about their own kind of "New World Order".
 
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The term "New World Order" has nothing to do with conspiracies or conspiracy theories, originally. In reality, a "New World Order" is a political term, which for example can mean - if you take World World II as an example - if the Axis powers would win, that would mean that there would be a "New World Order" in accordance with the Axis powers' wills, since the world would function differently compared to before World War II.

However, the term "New World Order" is often used when talking about conspiracies today, and most notably about The Illuminati, The Bilderberg Group and similar constellations. Personally, I don't believe that we need to reach that far, even, because the World Economic Forum has made it amply clear that they, basically, wish to bring about their own kind of "New World Order".
I agree with you and was getting at the WEForum without wanting to name that evil group of people. They want to rule over us and I wonder if they will accomplish their goal. I hope to be gone by then. Then again, part of the agenda they have is to depopulate the world
 
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I agree with you and was getting at the WEForum without wanting to name that evil group of people. They want to rule over us and I wonder if they will accomplish their goal. I hope to be gone by then. Then again, part of the agenda they have is to depopulate the world

Don't worry - we will own nothing, eat ze bugs and be happy while living under Ze Great Reset :happy:

I wonder, though.... is Russia and China in on the plan, or will those western NWO powers simly not have any chance at implementing their new world if - let's say - there's a third world war between the west, Russia and China?
 
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Russia is being eliminated if this is their plan. Check out the BRIC plans and China looking at using their crypto. Doubtful they could pull it off as all the minor nobles want to be the King.
 
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obafgkm

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Ruling the whole world is a popular idea but difficult to achieve and maintain. The closest are probably the British empire, and the us led globalisation right now but is coming to an end. Other attempts might have succeeded in controlling certain aspects of most human lives, but far from everything in the nwo sense, and not as invincible as they wanted. Us dollar is seriously challenged, eu not in good health, un no one cares, big corps come and go, virus not anything near a nwo scale (maybe more coming), war still waiting for the next big one... Communism, with other leftish movements, is probably the most promising and visible attempt to achieve nwo status right now.

In the next decades the world is likely to be fragmented/multipolar, but surveillance, censorship, oppression everywhere. With or without nwo, life would still be bad for most people.
 
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JealousOfTheElderly

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I believe that although Putin and Jinping have been invited to and attended Davos numerous times (to talk about the USA), they are a thorn in the side of the WEF. What's that old adage about "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?
We'll see more surveillance and censorship with corporations continuing to gain a lot more power. I'm waiting for these corporations to start turning against each other and the WEF. Reminds me of game of thrones.
Funny, we have the power to stop all this. If only we would stop using facebook, tiktok, twitter, microsoft, etc and all of these companies' products, their stocks would tank and they'd lose power quickly.
I guess our society is too dependent on social media. I bet we'd see a happier society overall with lower suicide rates and depression if we could just shut off social media.
The WEF and architects of globalism are playing our dependence to their advantage.
Ruling the whole world is a popular idea but difficult to achieve and maintain. The closest are probably the British empire, and the us led globalisation right now but is coming to an end. Other attempts might have succeeded in controlling certain aspects of most human lives, but far from everything in the nwo sense, and not as invincible as they wanted. Us dollar is seriously challenged, eu not in good health, un no one cares, big corps come and go, virus not anything near a nwo scale (maybe more coming), war still waiting for the next big one... Communism, with other leftish movements, is probably the most promising and visible attempt to achieve nwo status right now.

In the next decades the world is likely to be fragmented/multipolar, but surveillance, censorship, oppression everywhere. With or without nwo, life would still be bad for most people.
100% correct and spot on. Censorship and oppression will continue to be increased. We're in for quite a ride. Hold on to your hats.
 
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obafgkm

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China historically thinks itself center of world. Communism, nwo, and China have much in common. China is not yet able to take on u.s. directly. But if u.s. is entrenched in some major conflict, then china has a chance to take over. China therefore supported Russia to provoke the u.s. But the Ukraine conflict doesn't turn out to be in china's favor. It exposes many weaknesses of Russia. Given it's domestic situation, china will probably close its iron curtain soon to avoid direct confrontation. Because of china's geography, the outside world probably won't bother to mess with China, unless china insists, but it won't. Back to the cold war.

The source of china's surveillance technology no doubt came from outside. China developed it, put into real use and tested it on real people. Like in the old days, companies tested their prototypes in other countries. The products will eventually go back home. Some people think it's less of a problem to let china or Russia have their data (think TikTok), but what makes them think china and Russia won't sell their data back to their countries? In a globalized world, it's hard to tell who deals with whom.

If many people have strong awareness and willingness to resist surveillance and censorship, it could tilt the balance. It's costly and inefficient for business and authorities to force things through. But if people so easily give up their privacy and give away their data (for vanity?), big brothers will just push further.
 
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I think if there were a NWO, there would be Snowden style leaks by now.
 
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May 21, 2022
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I think if there were a NWO, there would be Snowden style leaks by now.
If there's a group sophisticated enough to establish a NWO, they are definitely also capable of ruling it without much noise.
 
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If there's a group sophisticated enough to establish a NWO, they are definitely also capable of ruling it without much noise.
I don't see how its possible to run such a massive operation without much noise. It only takes one person to slip for us to all know.
 
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I don't see how its possible to run such a massive operation without much noise. It only takes one person to slip for us to all know.
The idea of a massive operation itself is what doesn't feel realistic at all, it has never been executed as far as we know (and in case it has, it just proves that it can be ran without people realizing). If there was a NWO, I think it wouldn't be as mystic and enormous as people think, but rather like powerful enough entities (let it be governments, corporations or any kind of group) constantly influencing society to their favor.
 
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TLEEA

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Aug 7, 2022
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There's a lot of information tidbits that say that there is are forms of high-class society that act in a cultish manner, but I don't think they have enough power to particularly influence the world order in the macro scale. No one is too powerful enough for that.