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Do you think a person can reach a point where no matter what they do, suicide is the only choice? Personally, I believe that for most people there is almost always a small chance that a person can change for the better. However there are a few that there is no help for.
 
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Elaina

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Sometimes depression is situational, and that situation is impossible to change. For example: my learning disability that greatly impacts my life. It will never go away. Some problems leaves one a perpetual social outcast. There are many problems one can have that will barley change for the better.
 
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Elaina

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for me to example: my learning disability that greatly impacts my life. It will never go away. so for me suicide is the only choice im 54 years old and thank its time to end my life
You have one too? Is it nonverbal learning disorder? That's what I have.
 
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ImNotBatman

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I believe there can always be a chance things will get better. But the opposite is true. In my case, I'm probably incapable of loving another human being again, and frankly I don't want to find out if I can. I want kids, and to start a life. And by the time I find someone I'm ready with, I'll be in my 50s when the kid graduates high school. I don't want my depression and loneliness to get better, so suicide it is.
 
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I believe there can always be a chance things will get better. But the opposite is true. In my case, I'm probably incapable of loving another human being again, and frankly I don't want to find out if I can. I want kids, and to start a life. And by the time I find someone I'm ready with, I'll be in my 50s when the kid graduates high school. I don't want my depression and loneliness to get better, so suicide it is.
My moms in her 50s and I graduated high school a year ago. Same with my friends parents. People are having kids older now for sure. Not to minimize your problems though.
 
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For people like me, suicide isn't the only choice, but it will probably remain the best one. If I never commit suicide, it will be because I didn't muster the necessary courage; I still would have been better off prematurely dead. I am too far gone for any chance at a happy life, so why prolong it?
 
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ImNotBatman

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My moms in her 50s and I graduated high school a year ago. Same with my friends parents. People are having kids older now for sure. Not to minimize your problems though.
Oh its possible. I agree. But I want to be healthy and happy for my children. I want to be able to meet my grand children(without teenage pregnancy from my children. )
I want to be fit enough to be the dad who plays sports with his kids. Not 50 something and wheezing after a little bit. Sure, its all about me and my fitness level but science proves I wont be as fit at 50 as I will be at 40, or even 35.
 
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For people like me, suicide isn't the only choice, but it will probably remain the best one. If I never commit suicide, it will be because I didn't muster the necessary courage; I still would have been better off prematurely dead. I am too far gone for any chance at a happy life, so why prolong it?
I have this same idea about myself. However, I know that there is a chance for a happy life for me. But to get there is a lot of struggle and work. It's why suicide isn't my only choice, just the best one.
 
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My life as I know it ended 3 years ago when I had my accident. My health has just gotten progressively worse ever since due to various illnesses and workplace injuries. Yeah technically I could go on living a couple more years but I'd have to deal with a host of problems like losing my vision, my teeth, kidney failure, knee surgery etc. Suffering through all of that makes no sense while I still have the money and resources to end it sooner.
 
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You have one too? Is it nonverbal learning disorder? That's what I have.

yes i have the same nonverbal learning disorder been like this all my life and sick i of it so i want to end my life pm me if you like take care
 
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Leann

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Suicide isn't always a solution to a temporary problem. I always hated my life even before it took a turn for the worse with the mental misdiagnosis. Now I am losing custody of my daughter. Sure I could move on and have more kids but I can't replace her. I never had any dreams in life. No one knew it, but all I ever really wanted was to be a mother. And since my evil ex had to ruin that, I think it is about time I mustered the courage to end my life.
 
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transgenderfailure

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I think being transgender is a good reason. It's a problem that has no real cure. If I choose to transition.. I'll forever be a chemically castrated male rather than a natal female to society. I know that sex is on a spectrum broader than just the rigid male and female that people portray it to be but that just doesn't cut it. I hate that this is my reality, I don't want any of this shit and I want out.
 
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My life as I know it ended 3 years ago when I had my accident. My health has just gotten progressively worse ever since due to various illnesses and workplace injuries. Yeah technically I could go on living a couple more years but I'd have to deal with a host of problems like losing my vision, my teeth, kidney failure, knee surgery etc. Suffering through all of that makes no sense while I still have the money and resources to end it sooner.
That's so sad. In any life with any sequence of events, I would be a miserable person. I would say that I had to resign myself to that fact, but hopelessness has its upsides. I can't be tortured by visions of a life I know I never could have had. It actually sounds like you had a chance.
 
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I can't be tortured by visions of a life I know I never could have had. It actually sounds like you had a chance.

I wish that was the case for me. I'm constantly reminded that in a perfect world I'd be already graduated from University by now working at my dream job with perfect health. Instead I'm now unemployed, living at my parents and physically degrading due to my own poor choices
 
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I wish that was the case for me. I'm constantly reminded that in a perfect world I'd be already graduated from University by now working at my dream job with perfect health. Instead I'm now unemployed, living at my parents and physically degrading due to my own poor choices

Why do you blame yourself?
 
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MAIO

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Do you think a person can reach a point where no matter what they do, suicide is the only choice? Personally, I believe that for most people there is almost always a small chance that a person can change for the better. However there are a few that there is no help for.

The question should not be is the suicide the only choice but what is the best choice? Life has never been proved to be worth starting or worth continuing. We know the idea of life being a sacred gift comes from /religious values where they can not even give a description of what their afterlife is like or even appear to really believe in it.
 
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Tiredman

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Why do you blame yourself?

I was an honor roll student with scholarships and a very bright future but I barely had any friends for most of highschool because of the course load. During my final year however I started partying, smoking weed and skipping class in an effort to seem 'cool' and make 'friends'. If I never had this sudden change of heart I would've been able to go to post secondary and thus I wouldn't have been forced to work at my old job. My old job destroyed my health; I ended up getting kidney + digestive problems, chronic back/shoulder pain, hearing loss, eye injuries, and poor oral health. Plus if I never had to work there I probably wouldn't have broken my leg in the first place because I wouldn't have had the money to move in with my roomate who influenced me to go longboarding on the day that I wiped out.

Point is: I'm a screw up and unless time travel is possible theres no hope of undoing all of my naive and short sighted decisions that led me here.
 
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Neo-Schopenhauerian

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Absolutely, it's the unfortunate nature of biology.

Oh its possible. I agree. But I want to be healthy and happy for my children. I want to be able to meet my grand children(without teenage pregnancy from my children. )
I want to be fit enough to be the dad who plays sports with his kids. Not 50 something and wheezing after a little bit. Sure, its all about me and my fitness level but science proves I wont be as fit at 50 as I will be at 40, or even 35.

The creation of life is the most selfish and immoral thing you can do, especially considering how high the heritability of depression and other behavioral/personality factors is.
 
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ImNotBatman

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Absolutely, it's the unfortunate nature of biology.



The creation of life is the most selfish and immoral thing you can do, especially considering how high the heritability of depression and other behavioral/personality factors is.

Selfish or not, genetically it is our duty to reproduce to "further" the species.
 
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typx

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May 4, 2018
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Do you think a person can reach a point where no matter what they do, suicide is the only choice? Personally, I believe that for most people there is almost always a small chance that a person can change for the better. However there are a few that there is no help for.

I don't think that suicide is ever the only choice. But things can definitely get to a point where it becomes the best choice. Sometimes you make so many mistakes and missteps that you can't come back from it. I think some people have been in the jaws of a slowly closing trap for years and years before they realize it has now closed completely on them. When you realize you can't get out.. what can you or anyone else do? You are trapped by your own steady, fearful ignorance of the results of the choices you've made. And then guilt and shame just bury you.

Reading posts on 'loss of hope' sites and thinking about my own path it seems one of the most damaging decision trees comes when a person doesn't learn/have the social skills, life skills, or general competence necessary to navigate the world. For some, it might be from not taking some very fundamental stuff onboard at a very young age. For others maybe an inability to learn it at all. The result seems the same either way. So what chance does this person have? Did they ever a chance of making good life decisions when their head isn't equipped to deal with life? Those poor decisions seem to end up with a person living an unsustainable life. They can't 'get with the program' and end up in that trap. And then death becomes a better option than going on.
 
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ion900

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it's all mental a lot of the time, I recommend dmt, lsd
 
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I think being transgender is a good reason. It's a problem that has no real cure. If I choose to transition.. I'll forever be a chemically castrated male rather than a natal female to society. I know that sex is on a spectrum broader than just the rigid male and female that people portray it to be but that just doesn't cut it. I hate that this is my reality, I don't want any of this shit and I want out.
I don’t think that’s a good reason. I really support being transgender, since I have a friend who is a trans male like you. If people think that being trans is a sin, they’re wrong. If you wanted to be trans, it was your idea and anyone who thinks that’s stupid is just a dipwad.
 
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transgenderfailure

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Apr 30, 2018
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I don’t think that’s a good reason. I really support being transgender, since I have a friend who is a trans male like you. If people think that being trans is a sin, they’re wrong. If you wanted to be trans, it was your idea and anyone who thinks that’s stupid is just a dipwad.
But thats the thing. I never chose to want to experience bodily dysphoria. I wish I could just live and accept my body the way it is, but it's virtually impossible when my brain constantly tells me that my body is wrong and it shouldn't look the way it looks.

Thx for the kind words.
 
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hamilton_fangirl129

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But thats the thing. I never chose to want to experience bodily dysphoria. I wish I could just live and accept my body the way it is, but it's virtually impossible when my brain constantly tells me that my body is wrong and it shouldn't look the way it looks.

Thx for the kind words.
Who made you be trans against your will?
 
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I don't know about other people but i'm convinced it's 100% the case for me.
 
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FullFat

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I was an honor roll student with scholarships and a very bright future but I barely had any friends for most of highschool because of the course load. During my final year however I started partying, smoking weed and skipping class in an effort to seem 'cool' and make 'friends'. If I never had this sudden change of heart I would've been able to go to post secondary and thus I wouldn't have been forced to work at my old job. My old job destroyed my health; I ended up getting kidney + digestive problems, chronic back/shoulder pain, hearing loss, eye injuries, and poor oral health. Plus if I never had to work there I probably wouldn't have broken my leg in the first place because I wouldn't have had the money to move in with my roomate who influenced me to go longboarding on the day that I wiped out.

Point is: I'm a screw up and unless time travel is possible theres no hope of undoing all of my naive and short sighted decisions that led me here.

I mean, this is definitely a case of "do as I say, not as I do", but I feel like you shouldn't be so hard on yourself for that.

That's a long chain of events and a ton of what-ifs. You made a bad decision, and you can kick yourself for that, but you dealt with the aftermath the best way you could with the information you had. Surely, you did not know how hard that job would be on your body, right? Same thing goes for the accident. Did you have any inkling it might happen? If yes, moreso than anybody else who takes the risk to longboard?

Finally, if somebody else told you that happened to them, would you blame them? A lot of smart, responsible adults goofed off in high school. My older brother was a huge partier in HS and never got his degree. He now owns his own business and is great at what he does. I won't feed you the claptrap that everyone can succeed or that could be you, just that a good person could have made the mistakes you did.
 
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Tiredman

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Apr 30, 2018
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I mean, this is definitely a case of "do as I say, not as I do", but I feel like you shouldn't be so hard on yourself for that.

That's a long chain of events and a ton of what-ifs. You made a bad decision, and you can kick yourself for that, but you dealt with the aftermath the best way you could with the information you had. Surely, you did not know how hard that job would be on your body, right? Same thing goes for the accident. Did you have any inkling it might happen? If yes, moreso than anybody else who takes the risk to longboard?

Finally, if somebody else told you that happened to them, would you blame them? A lot of smart, responsible adults goofed off in high school. My older brother was a huge partier in HS and never got his degree. He now owns his own business and is great at what he does. I won't feed you the claptrap that everyone can succeed or that could be you, just that a good person could have made the mistajmi you did.

In the end whether or not I blame myself isn't going to undo any of the lasting physical ailments that I have to deal with on a daily basis. They're only going to get worse. If I was in perfect health then maybe I could be like your brother but I dont have any special skills let alone the money or motivation to start my own business. There's no happy ending to my story unless I win the lottery and by some miracle able to overcome my chronic pain and illness.
 

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