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bodrioirredento

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I have been suicidal from a long time ago, but from a few months i have been actively suicidal, today i have my first emotional crisis i couldn't stop the tears and have to flee the office to take a walk, i called the crisis attention line, and they took the call.

Tomorrow I have an appointment with them, 7 am, i really don't know what to expect, it is a good idea to reveal that i´m suicidal?

i really don't know why i called...

Have anyone here, feel a relief going to this places?

Any advice?
 
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How did the appointment go? Hopefully it went well!

I've had good experiences in therapy and also not so good ones. One of my therapists just wasn't vibing with me I guess, I basically spent every session with her sitting in awkward silence and crying to myself while my therapist stared and said "aww, that's so sad." I have social anxiety disorder so that was the worst environment for me, not therapeutic at all. Plus that arrangement was very expensive.

My newest therapist is a lot better, she talks me through things and gives me actual advice. Personally, I need someone who does CBT. If you're not familiar with that, basically it's a exercise-style therapy. The idea is that your dysfunction is caused by cognitive distortions which come from core beliefs. The goal is to identify those distortions, come up with disputing questions and facts, and then practice dealing with them. I also do group sessions for exposure. This was all free through my school, and I'm thankful for it. I feel heard and like my therapist knows what to do. It's also focused on helping me function better, not just allowing me to rant.

As for suicidal talk, I would say try to be vague until you see how easily triggered your therapist is lol. Some are cruel and will try to section you for any hint of ideation. Others are more understanding. I've never had a problem revealing that I experience ideation, but I've also never attempted. It might be different if you have a history of attempts or self-harm. You can always just say that you don't feel comfortable discussing the details also, I always say that. I've never gone into details about the exact plan or thoughts I have, especially if they ask me about recent ideation.

Don't be afraid to interview your therapist -- a large part of the success of therapy involves the therapeutic relationship. If you can't trust your therapist, then you will gain nothing from therapy. Ask if they have experience with your condition, if they tend to be listeners, advice-givers, or have a more voice-of-reason approach. You can even ask their opinion on religion, politics, and recovery topics and see if there are any glaring differences on that front. Sometimes a therapist will ask something like "why is it important that you know this about me?" usually they're just trying to get a sense of you since this can reveal fears of judgement, sense of safety, or trust issues.

Don't be afraid to "fire" your therapist if you don't get along, don't wait til you're months along and feel obligated to stick with them. Most good therapists will be happy to give a referral to a colleage that may be more experienced with your situation, or simply more in line with your expectations.

Good luck! Therapy can be completely life-changing for some people, hopefully you're one of them!
 
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bodrioirredento

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everydayiloveyou said:
How did the appointment go? Hopefully it went well!

I've had good experiences in therapy and also not so good ones. One of my therapists just wasn't vibing with me I guess, I basically spent every session with her sitting in awkward silence and crying to myself while my therapist stared and said "aww, that's so sad." I have social anxiety disorder so that was the worst environment for me, not therapeutic at all. Plus that arrangement was very expensive.

My newest therapist is a lot better, she talks me through things and gives me actual advice. Personally, I need someone who does CBT. If you're not familiar with that, basically it's a exercise-style therapy. The idea is that your dysfunction is caused by cognitive distortions which come from core beliefs. The goal is to identify those distortions, come up with disputing questions and facts, and then practice dealing with them. I also do group sessions for exposure. This was all free through my school, and I'm thankful for it. I feel heard and like my therapist knows what to do. It's also focused on helping me function better, not just allowing me to rant.

As for suicidal talk, I would say try to be vague until you see how easily triggered your therapist is lol. Some are cruel and will try to section you for any hint of ideation. Others are more understanding. I've never had a problem revealing that I experience ideation, but I've also never attempted. It might be different if you have a history of attempts or self-harm. You can always just say that you don't feel comfortable discussing the details also, I always say that. I've never gone into details about the exact plan or thoughts I have, especially if they ask me about recent ideation.

Don't be afraid to interview your therapist -- a large part of the success of therapy involves the therapeutic relationship. If you can't trust your therapist, then you will gain nothing from therapy. Ask if they have experience with your condition, if they tend to be listeners, advice-givers, or have a more voice-of-reason approach. You can even ask their opinion on religion, politics, and recovery topics and see if there are any glaring differences on that front. Sometimes a therapist will ask something like "why is it important that you know this about me?" usually they're just trying to get a sense of you since this can reveal fears of judgement, sense of safety, or trust issues.

Don't be afraid to "fire" your therapist if you don't get along, don't wait til you're months along and feel obligated to stick with them. Most good therapists will be happy to give a referral to a colleage that may be more experienced with your situation, or simply more in line with your expectations.

Good luck! Therapy can be completely life-changing for some people, hopefully you're one of them!

Regarding the appointment it went very well, as first time i was interviewed by two therapists (separately) first for a diagnose that send me with the other one that have more experience dealing with the things that are happening to me, it was very good, he gave me some advice to deal with my depression, and some other to deal with things that i even didn't say. he was young but i think that he has seen other cases like mine.

As you say at the beginning i was cautious to talk about my intentions to be there but, i really didn't have to talk about suicide, and he doesn't put pressure on me to talk about it, but i´m sure that he knew.

Lets see how it goes the next weeks and, if i can do my part.

Thank you for your answer, and advice its very helpful.
 
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I'm not a fan of psychiatrists but I got a lot of help from a psychologist when I was seeing one. Hope it goes well for you.
 
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bodrioirredento said:
I have been suicidal from a long time ago, but from a few months i have been actively suicidal, today i have my first emotional crisis i couldn't stop the tears and have to flee the office to take a walk, i called the crisis attention line, and they took the call.

Tomorrow I have an appointment with them, 7 am, i really don't know what to expect, it is a good idea to reveal that i´m suicidal?

i really don't know why i called...

Have anyone here, feel a relief going to this places?

Any advice?
Psychologists might be able to help you work through grief or challenges. Psychiatrists are the people who prescribe prescription drugs. I guess it depends on your circumstances and why you are reaching out. Is it your environment that is causing you distress, or is it a chemical imbalance in the brain? That’s what you have to figure out and weigh the best treatment options with trusted professionals.
 
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I’ve had to see so many till I found the right one, this last one that I’ve seeing one year or so basically saved my life, so as SS.
 
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bodrioirredento

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stellabelle said:
Psychologists might be able to help you work through grief or challenges. Psychiatrists are the people who prescribe prescription drugs. I guess it depends on your circumstances and why you are reaching out. Is it your environment that is causing you distress, or is it a chemical imbalance in the brain? That’s what you have to figure out and weigh the best treatment options with trusted professionals.
I went to a clinic a week ago, and the first evaluation send me to both psychologist and psychiatrist, first one game some non prescription drugs, and the second game some advice, and being honest i feel kinda less depressed, but still in the hole.
 
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Anything in medical, whether it is the mind or body as far as seeing someone goes is a total roll of the dice. first off one might click with the medical person and there in again maybe not. Also it can be that either party is having a bad da or good day and that might influence the outcome for the meeting. So many variables to think about when going to a medical person. My experience ahs been mostly not good as they have seemed to be more interested in the money/insurance angle than helping me. Everyone that I have ever gone to, starts looking at the clock as my time was coming up to make sure that they did not go over. Have had more than one tell me that either my time was up and/or my insurance does not cover that. Walter
 

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