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thetwilightzone

thetwilightzone

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Jul 14, 2018
307
Whether it's related to you expressing your suicidal ideation or not? It seems to me that there is also a correlation between people who offer tough love with suicide (cowardly, selfish) and call people 'lazy' 'undisciplined'.
 
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Deleted_9cKnXB34QG

Mage
Jun 26, 2018
502
Yeah - lazy, irresponsible, unreliable, undisciplined, useless and so on.
I just can't do the shit that's expected of me because I see most things as utterly pointless or absurd, I'm incompatible with life and I completely gave up on doing anything productive or pretending that I care.
 
thetwilightzone

thetwilightzone

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Jul 14, 2018
307
Yeah - lazy, irresponsible, unreliable, undisciplined, useless and so on.
I just can't do the shit that's expected of me because I see most things as utterly pointless or absurd, I'm incompatible with life and I completely gave up on doing anything productive or pretending that I care.

By who if you don't mind me asking? Parents, Teachers, other authority figures.

I think this is an unpopular opinion irl but some people just have the natural motivation and discipline to push through in life whereas others don't. That doesn't mean that they should try but at some point for some people (though they may be in the minority), the effort it takes to improve outweighs the benefits.
 
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Deleted_9cKnXB34QG

Mage
Jun 26, 2018
502
My mom and teachers. Mainly my mom tho, I'm pretty sure she hates me because she can see my father in me - broken, careless, lazy, unreliable, alcoholic piece of shit.

Whatever normies have that motivates them to get a degree, a job, pick up a hobby etc. - I don't have that. I don't know how do people live life, I feel like an alien who crash-landed on this strange planet where everyone is acting weird and everything is absurd.
 
Tiburcio

Tiburcio

Voluntary deletion.
May 9, 2018
1,573
Parents, teachers, friends, everybody. I don't want to give details because I burn on fury.

I'm still surprised of how uncomprehensive people is, if you can't (or don't want) fulfill the expectations others put on you, then you are just lazy.

The worst is when somebody call me undisciplined and say "your parents should hit you more when you was a kid".
They did it constantly and because of this I have a trauma. And it didn't seem to work because according to them I'm still "lazy and undisciplined"...
 
Imaginos

Imaginos

Full-time layabout
Apr 7, 2018
638
My father was of the opinion for a long time that I didn't suffer from anxiety/agoraphobia, and that I was simply using it as an excuse to cover up my supposed "laziness", in order to avoid having to go to school, or anywhere else for that matter. Not only was it a grossly ignorant & callous position to hold, but it was also hilariously hypocritical (for lack of a better word). My father's one of the laziest, most slovenly individuals I've ever known. To say the pot was calling the kettle black, doesn't even cover the half of it. These days, however, he's certainly a tad more understanding than he used to be, even acknowledging how block-headed his stance was in the past, but, ultimately, I think he's just come to accept the basic fact that I'm so unbelievably far out to sea at this point that, regardless of what he truly believes is wrong with me, there's really not much that can be done about it (assuming anything ever could've been "done" at all). I'm just a mentally crippled hermit who's stuck in his cage, and the reasons as to why don't much matter anymore.
 
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RaptorHavx

RaptorHavx

Drowning in loneliness...
Aug 15, 2018
120
Yep, when I lived with my dad, my suffering and lack of motivation, overall depression was just a shameful laziness for him.