- May 2, 2020
I'm thinking of doing ECT or TMS because nothing else is working. Just wondering what your experiences are because I'm kinda scared about it.
This is really helpful. My therapist recommend trying TMS since medications do not work for me.LittleJem said:I paid for TMS, it's not cheap - 7K in UK pounds. I was so ill and suicidal I decided it was worth trying, as their website hyped it up and their intake person hyped it up.
The company I used, Smart TMS, keeps no data on their patients post-TMS (i.e. even for patients for whom it works, what is the relapse rate, how long till relapse?). On their website they site 70% efficacy for TRD, BUT they only quote one or two research papers and do not state how long the treatment lasts for....You can have maintenance treatments, but there isn't research or data as to how much maintenance is required.
Even ECT when it works only works for maybe 6 months or a bit longer, nothing cures it long term. I didn't know any of this before I signed up and spent the money.
So out of 30 days of TMS (30 treatments anyway, I had two on the same day sometimes), I had 8 days of relief total. I remember the day it worked for me, about 10 days into treatment, before and after the TMS I was like a different person. before it, depressed, could barely speak, suicidal. After it, conversational and much happier. For those 4 days when I felt better, I wanted to marry the TMS machine. Seriously.
Then I had PMT and my mood crashed back to suicidal again. This was halfway through the sessions. I didn't know whether to pay for the next batch (where SmartTMS hike up the price). I took the next 15 and had a few days of relief. Nothing lasting.
Nevertheless, it was kind of worth it for me as the days of feeling better gave me the strength to fight bullying in my workplace and also gave me some hope that my brain could function differently. I was still horribly ill and suicidal with depression...UNTIL:
I feel better now thanks to microdosing Ketamine. 30mg every other day. That is my top tip. Snort it for better bioavailability. After 20 years of waking up wanting to die, I don't wake up now with suicidal thoughts. I do also use other stuff around it. Shrooms are now more helpful for me, LSD is still helpful for me (I count myself lucky that these substances are helpful for me). Weed is good for my agitation. Modafinil is instant mood uplift. I cycle all of them.
If you haven't tried Ketamine, I would recommend Ketamine first. The protocol of 30mg every other day is a good one, I found it on Reddit (finally) after much research. If you do it legally it is muchos expensive, so black market is much cheaper. The b**stards have made a nasal spray for treatment-resistant depression that costs £10,000 so the NHS have decided not to offer it. But on the street, it is £30 a gram. It is one of the most essential medications in the world, it is a battlefield anaesthetic and they even use it on babies. So all the lies they tell about 'party-drug' Ketamine is also a cover-up for not sharing this common and essential medicine with those whose lives it can save. It is saving my life at the moment.
kappa said:This is really helpful. My therapist recommend trying TMS since medications do not work for me.
The treatments would be 5 days a week, at least 36 sessions. I don’t understand how people can work a job and get this treatment at the same time.
Kinda though it was my last option. But hearing it doesn’t last is helpful.
Mushrooms are decriminalized where I am at, loosely thinking of trying to grow some for microdosing.
I looked into TMS it kind of freaks me out tbh.
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