Darkmoon Queen

Darkmoon Queen

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So men under 6' are considered short? As far as I know, the average height in most countries is a few inches below that. Very odd.
Pretty much. I think most women want a man who is tall and muscly enough to make them look 'smol'. That's why they have massive phones/handbags/Starbucks cups.

Personally I like a man around 5'7" to 5'9" (and I've dated 5'5"). That way everything is in reach, it's just far more convenient.
 
orangepotato

orangepotato

Student
Mar 26, 2020
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Because Tinder has given women over-inflated egos and now every 300 pound single mom in her late 30s thinks she's entitled to a young 20 year old 6'2 stud. Hate me, but you know it's true.
 
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Pretty much. I think most women want a man who is tall and muscly enough to make them look 'smol'. That's why they have massive phones/handbags/Starbucks cups.
Living in a tall Northern country is terrible, I despise having to look up at everyone, even other women. South America is better because everyone is a midget and my Napoleon complex doesn't have to resent feeling "smol" all the time.
 
Darkmoon Queen

Darkmoon Queen

Arcanist
Apr 1, 2020
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Because Tinder has given women over-inflated egos and now every 300 pound single mom in her late 30s thinks she's entitled to a young 20 year old 6'2 stud. Hate me, but you know it's true.
But how many 300lb single mums in their late 30's actually do get a 20 year old stud? Their hubris isn't justified so fuck em.
 
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Amina92

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The truth is that girls are humans, and humans are superficial pieces of shit. Especially in the age of Tinder. Being nice or loving or sensitive doesn't matter - you have to be 6'0. That's what matters these days. Girls aren't any better than men; in fact they're even worse.
I dont agree with you. I had an aquantance, he wasn't very tall, but I liked his character, it was interesting to talk with him, still I love him as a person.
However I can agree with you that there are lots of stereotypes like people should be successful, do a good career, have kids, maybe some of us are different and don't go the standard way of so called "development ". Like people are not allowed to be ill, to be depressed, not to work. Otherwise they are weak, losers, dont have a will
 
hotelbeneathground

hotelbeneathground

so gay.
Apr 13, 2021
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@lonelyuglyguy44 @Darkmoon Queen @Dr Iron Arc @orangepotato

Here's a revolutionary idea - people could try dating within their friggin' league!
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I'm fairly attractive, but I'm traumatized, so I got myself a traumatized bf! I can have dirty brief encounters with fairly hot "normal" guys, but I can't & don't even want to trick them into dating me. I might be fucked up, but that doesn't mean I have to be delusional as well. If you want a decent relationship, don't pretend you're something you aren't or you'll fuck yourself over big time. Duh.
Btw, it's simply impossible that no short women are interested in short men. WTF is a tiny female with an average tiny female's orifices supposed to do with an average tall guy's dick?? :ohhhh::haha::haha:
So men under 6' are considered short? As far as I know, the average height in most countries is a few inches below that. Very odd.
I don't give a shit about height, I honestly don't. Short masculine guys are very hot because they usually have something to prove & they try much harder to impress with their skills. I simply had to share that with you :haha:
 
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Voûte_Étoilée

Suicide is just for overachievers
Apr 28, 2021
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Here's a revolutionary idea - people could try dating within their friggin' league!

I'm fairly attractive, but I'm traumatized, so I got myself a traumatized bf! I can have dirty brief encounters with fairly hot "normal" guys, but I can't & don't even want to trick them into dating me. I might be fucked up, but that doesn't mean I have to be delusional as well. If you want a decent relationship, don't pretend you're something you aren't or you'll fuck yourself over big time. Duh.
Btw, it's simply impossible that no short women are interested in short men. WTF is a tiny female with an average tiny female's orifices supposed to do with an average tall guy's dick?? :ohhhh::haha::haha:

I don't give a shit about height, I honestly don't. Short masculine guys are very hot because they usually have something to prove & they try much harder to impress with their skills. I simply had to share that with you :haha:
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cooldude420

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Aug 8, 2021
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dating for young men sucks.

in my 30s. lass gurlfren was 21. dated plenty girls with 10 year age gap. current gf is 6 year younger, cute, nuertosciientiss.

dm me. me give advice. my enlush gooood in dms
Are you also under 23 and not overweight? One might class that as a fairly high standard unless you bring similar to the table.

I think you might be placing a little too much importance on finding love. Love is nice to have (I imagine..) but it should be a piece of your world, not its entirety. Anyone who feels that you have nothing but them is soon going to grow resentful.

I'd say that if you focus on personal development (any fitness goals, career goals, personal interests, etc), you'll instantly become more attractive because you'll come across as a strong, self-actualised person and you'll be conversational in many areas. You'll also have higher standards. I realise that you've lowered your standards to widen your pool of opportunity but ultimately that will work against you because you'll only ever attract crap. We accept the love that we feel we deserve.

And, unpopular opinion, people CAN smell desperation. I've seen men who were aesthetically hot enough to be models be avoided because they gave off a desperate vibe. You need to practice abundance mentality. People are lured in by what seems harder to obtain. Doormat isn't sexy.

It also isn't sexy if you give off the impression that ANY girl will do. We all want to be liked for ourselves, not be there to fill a girlfriend/boyfriend-shaped hole.
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More than "What looks alike, comes together" I believe in complementation. Have seen grinch-looking dudes date absolute babes. Medium good-looking females dating greek gods. Attractive fit ladies dating guys with beer bellies. It's all about what you're in for. I'm tall and slim and personally prefer smaller girls with a bit of "meat" on them. Also more than looks, I go for the emotional support they can give. Whereas I could date a more attractive and taller girl only to find out she's ice-cold & emptied brain .
Here's Nicolas Sarkozy and his wife Carla Bruni. You'll see where I'm getting to.
 

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finish.me

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im gonna be honest i dont really believe the whole thing about being too ugly or short for love.
short story: when i was a kid, i was friends with someone in school that wasn't considered attractive by any conventional standards. not to be overtly blunt but yeah he was ugly. he was also reallyyyy overweight and very very short. his name was edgar and we bonded over shit like video games and shit we couldn't really find in other people at our school. im also a gay man so, just to put this into perspective the chances of us being mutually attracted to eachother was lower than dirt. But after spending all that time together and getting to know him and realizing he was literally funny and smart and wellspoken and how fucking kind he was, was enough to make me like him. like, literally i had the biggest crush on him. i haven't seen him in years but i would honestly say i loved him. What ended up happening was, a prom night was held and we found our way to eachother and talked and it didn't really go far because we were interrupted and also, like, kids at the time and we didn't have the same friend group but we still split off and actually found ourselves talking and the tension was there. That tension was so fucking palpable i still remember it to this day. if youre on this site i'd say you're most likely going to be pessimistic and a majority of us have our walls all the way the fuck up. it makes it hard to bother getting to know people, it also makes it hard to be kind. i literally loved that guy and he wasn't anything i'd consider my type. if thats possible then i legit think theres someone for everyone

just food for thought
 
OrcWitch

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Sep 3, 2021
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I recommend a dakimakura body pillow as a placeholder gf. I am getting one for my birthday.

Real answer: #1 rule of socializing is people like to be heard and listened to. Learn reflective listening and it will make women and people in general more drawn to you socially. Learn to be interested in people(or at least pretending to be interested), and you'll suddenly come across as far more socially skilled than you actually are. I don't know what to say about lookism stuff. I see short, overweight, and/or unattractive men with girlfriends and wives all the time.
 
hotelbeneathground

hotelbeneathground

so gay.
Apr 13, 2021
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I don't know what to say about lookism stuff. I see short, overweight, and/or unattractive men with girlfriends and wives all the time.

And their girlfriends & wives are usually short, overweight &/or unattractive, aren't they?
 
threesummers

threesummers

Enlightened
Nov 4, 2020
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Holy shit, this thread devolved into a fat/body shaming fest rather quickly...

Straight online dating sucks. Grindr works great, but to meet females, I find it works best in person or Facebook - join groups and meet people with similar interests.
 
OrcWitch

OrcWitch

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Sep 3, 2021
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Holy shit, this thread devolved into a fat/body shaming fest rather quickly...

Straight online dating sucks. Grindr works great, but to meet females, I find it works best in person or Facebook - join groups and meet people with similar interests.
I didn't mean to body or fat shame in my post. I'm not very attractive myself. I just meant I see people who aren't conventionally attractive who find longterm relationships.
And their girlfriends & wives are usually short, overweight &/or unattractive, aren't they?
I don't know. I wasn't trying to attack conventionally unattractive people, I'm just disagreeing with the posts saying it's impossible for certain men to find a partner.
 
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Lance Stone

Lance Stone

A life of screwing up fixed in a determined flash
Oct 10, 2021
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First you should focus on bettering yourself before you try to go out and get a girlfriend. I can't really say much since I'm 19 and haven't had a first kiss, but maybe try to work out and build some body positivity?
 
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hotelbeneathground

hotelbeneathground

so gay.
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I wasn't trying to attack conventionally unattractive people, I'm just disagreeing with the posts saying it's impossible for certain men to find a partner.
I know you weren't trying to attack anyone. Neither was I. It's silly to pretend that there's no such thing as conventional (un)attractiveness; there's nothing that those who say they're physically ugly hate more than being told that we're all beautiful. Talk about invalidation...
 
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callme

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Aug 15, 2021
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I know you weren't trying to attack anyone. Neither was I. It's silly to pretend that there's no such thing as conventional (un)attractiveness; there's nothing that those who say they're physically ugly hate more than being told that we're all beautiful. Talk about invalidation...
Not fair.

Some people have their lives worse than you and your advice would be invalid to them. "Find somebody in your league" doesn't work if you are any less than average at least, because anything below won't ever convince you to go ahead with anybody, and will make you break down. In honesty, nobody would even consider you in the first place.

I have rarely if ever seen such people, despite being one myself. I mean those who can't compensate with anything. Meanwhile, you say you are traumatised. But you have coherent and popular opinions. Your orientation slants the dating field, I have no idea if positively or negatively, but you can always hope due to chronic risk of abandon due to orientation, so even if millions of men are on Grindr, I think they'd still see someone less than ideal. No such advantage here. You are interesting, else would you write so many comments? Boring people have nothing to say.

I am almost convinced you've had at least one meet off Grindr, correct? You can't be that ugly and short if true. Homo men can always appear good-looking else "bicurious" wouldn't exist. An ugly hetero will just stay alone lest he marries a ball of lard battle-axe with a managerial temper and a horrible attitude.

Hell, being traumatised can get you sympathy if you are decent everywhere else.

People worse off wouldn't like people like themselves for the simple reason they are at the bottom. Like evil people don't go together with other evils, but with ordinary or even good people, they don't know they themselves are evil. Why would like attract like?
I despise having to look up at everyone
Hey, one distinct advantage - they are at the top of the smelly fat fucks pyramid, alongside all other euros and americans. While Southeast Asians and in fact just asians in general at the bottom. So don't sweat it.
 
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hotelbeneathground

hotelbeneathground

so gay.
Apr 13, 2021
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I am almost convinced you've had at least one meet off Grindr, correct? You can't be that ugly and short if true.

I'm neither short nor ugly

I'm fairly attractive, but I'm traumatized, so I got myself a traumatized bf! I can have dirty brief encounters with fairly hot "normal" guys, but I can't & don't even want to trick them into dating me. I might be fucked up, but that doesn't mean I have to be delusional as well.
 
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so gay.
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Your orientation slants the dating field, I have no idea if positively or negatively, but you can always hope due to chronic risk of abandon due to orientation, so even if millions of men are on Grindr, I think they'd still see someone less than ideal.

Are you saying you're unaware that tons of normie gays are more superficial & vicious than teenage alpha bitches? :pfff: I thank sweet Jeezus each day I'm not attracted to them.

Homo men can always appear good-looking else "bicurious" wouldn't exist.

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Do you think all gay guys look like Disney princes(ses)? :haha: I look a lot like the guy in my profile pic; do you find him "pretty"? He & I would want to buttfuck someone bicurious, you know. :pfff:
 
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callme

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Aug 15, 2021
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tons of normie gays are more superficial & vicious
Yeah, very anti-gay society, that's why.

Are those men ones that as I've made the unpopular opinion before, ones who make their whole personality and life all about LGBT, or regular nasty people which just happen to be gay? I'm counting on the former.

And what do you mean by vicious?

do you find him "pretty"

It's obvious he is not gay. Listen, we the hetero just somehow can determine by look if somebody is gay. Without regards as clichès like makeup, wearing pink, hugging male friends, wearing different colored socks etc stupid crap.

Now, he would be a "manly" gay so to speak. I am saying if he was one, he'd be slightly different looking and would have a better chance with men. Instead, try to imagine this tall and somewhat indimidating guy as he is now, but with a girly voice or small down there.

One will be probably with an equally ugly black boyfriend at worst. The other will endure a week at work of beeping notifications of his girlfriend's friends and family, making fun of him after being sent pics of how small he is.
 
Makko

Makko

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Hey, one distinct advantage - they are at the top of the smelly fat fucks pyramid, alongside all other euros and americans. While Southeast Asians and in fact just asians in general at the bottom. So don't sweat it.
Scandinavia and northern Germany (can't say about other places) is fairly health conscious and there are few overweight people here.
It's obvious he is not gay. Listen, we the hetero just somehow can determine by look if somebody is gay. Without regards as clichès like makeup, wearing pink, hugging male friends, wearing different colored socks etc stupid crap.

Now, he would be a "manly" gay so to speak. I am saying if he was one, he'd be slightly different looking and would have a better chance with men. Instead, try to imagine this tall and somewhat indimidating guy as he is now, but with a girly voice or small down there.

One will be probably with an equally ugly black boyfriend at worst. The other will endure a week at work of beeping notifications of his girlfriend's friends and family, making fun of him after being sent pics of how small he is.
I know it isn't even written to me but I can't make a lick of sense of this.
 
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Apr 28, 2020
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Living in a tall Northern country is terrible, I despise having to look up at everyone, even other women. South America is better because everyone is a midget and my Napoleon complex doesn't have to resent feeling "smol" all the time.

I'm South American and I'm basically a midget. But not all men here are. I see a lot of tall men here, otherwise I wouldn't have developed inferiority complex.
 
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mousebot

mousebot

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Oct 11, 2021
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I'm not attractive, short, maybe I'm slightly boring(my hobbies are relatively weird), and have mediocre social skills. I have very low standards (female, age <= 23, not overweight, that's all).
I'd like to give life another chance before I ctb, I really wish I could experience love. If I find a gf I will leave and probably never return. Instead I've been stuck in the dark for years unable to find even the slightest indication of a way out.
I dont think its over for you at all. I love short guys and average guys and also incredibly boring guys so im certain many girls do as well. My advice is just to talk to people. If you have very niche interests try to see if you can find people through them, or get into other interests that often have groups and cons and community or whatever. you crave love and are somewhat of a hopeless romantic which is the main thing lots of girls want. Try being more open with people i guess, and also dont ask people out way too soon - build up friendships first, and show youre interested, but if you say youre in love immediately theyll just think youd say that to anyone in their shoes.
 
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callme

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is fairly health conscious
Oh? Excuse me then. It does look true now that I think about it. Once I was told by a swede of what Sweden was like: "Well, basically blonde, tall and rich". :haha:
General attitude is a whole other question.

I wanted to point out @hotelbeneathground gave an incorrect depiction. The basketball player is clearly not gay.

He's right that some gays have biases and unrealistic standarts no different than anybody else.

I can't know really, I've never had friends or been with anybody. I'm the one who always stands aside, that's how bad, even in a place like this.

I chuckled when you said you have a Napoleon complex. You appear smart, very well read and competent, part of what Napoelon was. Why is height an issue if you're sharp as a tack... that kind of person who casually lets their partner know how horny after work they are and say " Honey, don't take a bath, I'm coming" :)).
 
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