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Many times under safe conditions with a partner.
Haha that's so exemplary! I envy you that you have somebody to practice with.
How much weight did you have to put in?

You really seem to know a lot about hanging. Any more advices you would give, maybe on knots, or what ever you think the biggest obstacles are?

edit: Oh, I realise we are discussing full suspension atm. Do you think a thick rope is also the go to for partial?
There are risks involved with hanging just like every other method. We are playing with death, after all. One can't expect something that's supposed to be fatal to be free of other risks.

Ever since my last attempt I have been experiencing occasional nausea and dizziness. Clearly something was damaged and it had a lasting impact. That attempt failed because I miscalculated the length of my noose and ended up doing partial (while standing) instead of full suspension. If survival instincts didn't kick in, I would have died. That is one issue with partial, you can back out of it even when you don't want to.

However, "becoming a vegetable" is a more likely issue if your noose and/or anchor point aren't strong enough to support your weight for at least 30 minutes.
If something breaks after you've been hanging for a few minutes, you're probably not dead, but you have certainly suffered brain damage. That's why it's important to make sure you're using strong materials, especially for full suspension.

But did you black out? Can the survival instinct still save you when you blacked out?
 
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A thinner rope is more painful. I will use a 20 mm mooring rope, it closes the arteries completely (10 seconds until passing out). A thinner rope is overkill.
I thought under 10mm is too thin and 10 - 15mm range was ideal. They don't seem that thin. The 14mm rope already seems on the thick side if I'm honest. Thinner ropes are easier to tie knots with so it might be useful to get a thinner rope even just for practicing knots. How was it tying the knots on such a thick rope? Is it easy to get a tight knot that doesn't come undone easily? What knot did you use?
 
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I thought under 10mm is too thin and 10 - 15mm range was ideal. They don't seem that thin. The 14mm rope already seems on the thick side if I'm honest. Thinner ropes are easier to tie knots with so it might be useful to get a thinner rope even just for practicing knots. How was it tying the knots on such a thick rope? Is it easy to get a tight knot that doesn't come undone easily? What knot did you use?
I use a hangman´s knot with only two coils. More coils will produce so much friction, that the noose will not tighten completely.
A thinner rope is OK if it is not too painful for you. The pressure to the neck depends also on your weight, mine is 90 kg. Stepping off the stool is hard enough, so I don´t want to be afraid of pain if it is not necessary.
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Partial hanging covers a wide range of variants. Your weight and the thickness of the rope are additional influencing factors on the pressure on your neck. The pressure is to low if only the jugular vein is blocked, it feels like your head will explode.
 
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Hey, can I die from this? Ligature and a rope. The top of that window grid is 7ft and I'm 5'8ft in height. Or is the anchor point not enough? Can I still escape the rope through this location? Help. Will the rope be diagonally placed and not be effective because of the ligature? Need a sure way to die
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Does somebody have information on the location of the knot? In the moment Im not capabale of testing correctly, because I can barely leave my bed, even taking a shirt on is too much for me sometimes atm. So causing unconsciousness through a rope around the neck is a little too much aswell.
But from what I see, no matter if the knot is in front of the face or behind the back, pressure on my blood vessels is applied. Does it really matter?


Hey, can I die from this? Ligature and a rope. The top of that window grid is 7ft and I'm 5'8ft in height. Or is the anchor point not enough? Can I still escape the rope through this location? Help. Will the rope be diagonally placed and not be effective because of the ligature? Need a sure way to die
1) I would ask myself if the anchor point is really stable enough since it will have to hold your weight about 20 minutes. Even if it holds you in a quick test, doesn't mean it lasts through the entire period.
2) Are you sure this place is really private enough? Looks quite public to me, like the cellar of a big house. You are found, you are not dead.
3) Maybe you simply test the height. Unfold your rope, make a proper knot (i take the slipknot, it gets recommended a lot and seems to work very good in my tests), attach the rope securely to the anchor point and see if everything works out the way you imagine it. I think there is actually almost no height requires, you can probably attach your noose very close to the anchor point. Your body will still pull you down with its weight.
 
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Does somebody have information on the location of the knot? In the moment Im not capabale of testing correctly, because I can barely leave my bed, even taking a shirt on is too much for me sometimes atm. So causing unconsciousness through a rope around the neck is a little too much aswell.
But from what I see, no matter if the knot is in front of the face or behind the back, pressure on my blood vessels is applied. Does it really matter?



1) I would ask myself if the anchor point is really stable enough since it will have to hold your weight about 20 minutes. Even if it holds you in a quick test, doesn't mean it lasts through the entire period.
2) Are you sure this place is really private enough? Looks quite public to me, like the cellar of a big house. You are found, you are not dead.
3) Maybe you simply test the height. Unfold your rope, make a proper knot (i take the slipknot, it gets recommended a lot and seems to work very good in my tests), attach the rope securely to the anchor point and see if everything works out the way you imagine it. I think there is actually almost no height requires, you can probably attach your noose very close to the anchor point. Your body will still pull you down with its weight.
Hey.
2.) Thanks for replying to this, it really helps. Hmmm this is at the back of the house, I plan to do it 11PM or 12AM, they will find me by 6AM when they go at the back of the house. Pretty much public.
3.) I am sure this will hold my weight since it's cemented and a window grid that's a tight iron bar. One thing I'm worried about is that it doesn't swing the rope or it's not the same as where there is only a metallic bar that can swing the rope like a pendelum or one single beam where you can tie the rope to.

Maybe I'll be testing it out.
@AnotherTragicName you can't leave your bed??
 
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How much noise will i make when haging from full suspension? I've rented a cheap house, but i'm concerned that the neighbours or someone walking past the streets could hear something.

Sorry my bad english i'm from brazil
 
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I am able to tie a snuggle hitch knot on small objects like a couple of inches wide with my rope. The problem is my anchor point is a foot and a half wide and it doesn't exactly produce a knot I can tighten. Does the anchor point need to be smaller in width?
 
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I am able to tie a snuggle hitch knot on small objects like a couple of inches wide with my rope. The problem is my anchor point is a foot and a half wide and it doesn't exactly produce a knot I can tighten. Does the anchor point need to be smaller in width?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
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I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
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Guide to partially suspended hanging:

Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.

This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.

Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.

By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.

Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.

Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.

What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .

It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.

What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.

Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.

Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.

You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.

A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.

When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.

How?

When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.

Good luck...
Where do u hang the rope from, I have nothing on the ceiling
 
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Your ceiling is probably designed to carry heavy loads. If it is concrete use a heavy-duty dowel. If you have ceiling beams use a screw hook.
 
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What do you guys think about pullup bar on a door frame? Mounting it on a door frame wouldn't make me fully hang, I'm tall. But would it still be effective? What if I took some sleeping pills? Pills not for ctb, but to make me weak enough so I fall asleep while "stand hanging" from a door frame. What would be better: rope or some wider band that goes fully around neck?

That sounds perfect.

I have a door pull-up bar from Blu Fit that can hold 181 KG that i can use as surface for the rope.

And to beat fear/survival instinct, i can get some sleeping pills from a neurologist, or maybe LSD from the Streets.

Do you know how thick the rope must be ?
 
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That sounds perfect.

I have a door pull-up bar from Blu Fit that can hold 181 KG that i can use as surface for the rope.

And to beat fear/survival instinct, i can get some sleeping pills from a neurologist, or maybe LSD from the Streets.

Do you know how thick the rope must be ?
I was wondering the same. I think one has to try different kinds of thickness to see what's work best for them. Not too thin, not too thick.
 
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Fuck SI, instead of jumping the stool i dropped slowly, started to shake and somehow manage to flip the stool up again and climbed it all that while hanging weighing 210lbs and drunk.

The worst feeling of my life, like a coward unable to do the only thing that ends this nightmare

Anyone with the same experience? Maybe its better to hang while sober
 
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Fuck SI, instead of jumping the stool i dropped slowly, started to shake and somehow manage to flip the stool up again and climbed it all that while hanging weighing 210lbs and drunk.

The worst feeling of my life, like a coward unable to do the only thing that ends this nightmare

Anyone with the same experience? Maybe its better to hang while sober
Don't know about drunk or sober but the slower I go, the worse it is. Last week I tried just leaning forwards and had to catch myself before I passed out. Definitely how I'll do it when the time comes.
 
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That sounds perfect.

I have a door pull-up bar from Blu Fit that can hold 181 KG that i can use as surface for the rope.

And to beat fear/survival instinct, i can get some sleeping pills from a neurologist, or maybe LSD from the Streets.

Do you know how thick the rope must be ?

I was wondering the same. I think one has to try different kinds of thickness to see what's work best for them. Not too thin, not too thick.

Well, at my understanding based on the wiki and the experience of many users, I think it works as easy as this:

- The thinner the rope is, more force is going to be applied to your neck (good) but it'll hurt you a bit, and pain could be another problem when trying to fight our survival instinct (bad).

- The thicker the rope is, less force will be applied to your neck (bad), but it'll be a lot more comfortable (good).

Conclusion: You need to find a rope that isn't that thin so it doesn't hurt you, but that also is able to make you pass out easily. Anyway if you have a thin neck, you can just get a thick rope because it doesn't decrease that much the force applied to your neck. It'll probably work great, and without the pain of the thin rope

Every body is different and the rope that fit best to everyone changes. But for me, a 10mm rope does it pretty well.
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Well, at my understanding based on the wiki and the experience of many users, I think it works as easy as this:

- The thinner the rope is, more force is going to be applied to your neck (good) but it'll hurt you a bit, and pain could be another problem when trying to fight our survival instinct (bad).

- The thicker the rope is, less force will be applied to your neck (bad), but it'll be a lot more comfortable (good).

Conclusion: You need to find a rope that isn't that thin so it doesn't hurt you, but that also is able to make you pass out easily. Anyway if you have a thin neck, you can just get a thick rope because it doesn't decrease that much the force applied to your neck. It'll probably work great, and without the pain of the thin rope

Every body is different and the rope that fit best to everyone changes. But for me, a 10mm rope does it pretty well.
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You are exactly right, the pressure to the neck is directly proportional to your body weight and inversely proportional to the product of your neck diameter and the diameter of the rope. The diameter of the neck when the rope has cut in is meant.

You need a certain pressure to close the carotid arteries, as more closed than closed is not possible additional pressure effects only more pain.
 
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I am planning to rent a hotel room and go out with partial suspension in the same manner as Robin Williams but am not sure if I've conceptualized it correctly. Do I sling the belt over to the one side of the door, tie it to the door knob and have the slipknot on the other side of the door where I put it over my neck, close the door to wedge the belt in tightly and then sit and let gravity take over? Am also thinking of taking sleeping pills just beforehand so that I don't struggle. Thoughts? (Sorry for the bad drawing)0001.jpg
 
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Jumping is no longer an option for me, but this may be, but how the hell does all this stuff work? I would need to be in my own home, but how do you tie one end to a bar or over a door and the other with the noose?
Its something I want to research more, but I have a month to do this in.....
 
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I am planning to rent a hotel room and go out with partial suspension in the same manner as Robin Williams but am not sure if I've conceptualized it correctly. Do I sling the belt over to the one side of the door, tie it to the door knob and have the slipknot on the other side of the door where I put it over my neck, close the door to wedge the belt in tightly and then sit and let gravity take over? Am also thinking of taking sleeping pills just beforehand so that I don't struggle. Thoughts? (Sorry for the bad drawing)View attachment 75703

Jumping is no longer an option for me, but this may be, but how the hell does all this stuff work? I would need to be in my own home, but how do you tie one end to a bar or over a door and the other with the noose?
Its something I want to research more, but I have a month to do this in.....
I've worked my way through every page of this thread and the common consensus seems to be that everyone is different and the best way to find out what works for you is to practice. Personally I found that standing (or crouching on all fours) and leaning forwards is the best way to get the carotid artery and send me quickly to unconsciousness. When I tried a vertical position with my back to the door, it just felt like I was choking or suffocating.
 
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Well, at my understanding based on the wiki and the experience of many users, I think it works as easy as this:

- The thinner the rope is, more force is going to be applied to your neck (good) but it'll hurt you a bit, and pain could be another problem when trying to fight our survival instinct (bad).

- The thicker the rope is, less force will be applied to your neck (bad), but it'll be a lot more comfortable (good).

Conclusion: You need to find a rope that isn't that thin so it doesn't hurt you, but that also is able to make you pass out easily. Anyway if you have a thin neck, you can just get a thick rope because it doesn't decrease that much the force applied to your neck. It'll probably work great, and without the pain of the thin rope

Every body is different and the rope that fit best to everyone changes. But for me, a 10mm rope does it pretty well.
I love you all. <3
Something like this?
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Should the material be considered?
 
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Urgh, just tried three times and each time I backed out just as the world was turning upside down and going dark. So pissed off with myself.
 
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Urgh, just tried three times and each time I backed out just as the world was turning upside down and going dark. So pissed off with myself.
Isn't blacking out what you should aim for? What happened?
 
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Urgh, just tried three times and each time I backed out just as the world was turning upside down and going dark. So pissed off with myself.

Waht you pissed off about, isn't blacking out the point of this part
 
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Yeah, I backed out just as I began to black out. Still got things to sort before I end things and couldn't bring myself to go for it regardless.
 
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I've worked my way through every page of this thread and the common consensus seems to be that everyone is different and the best way to find out what works for you is to practice. Personally I found that standing (or crouching on all fours) and leaning forwards is the best way to get the carotid artery and send me quickly to unconsciousness. When I tried a vertical position with my back to the door, it just felt like I was choking or suffocating.


if you are on a door, do you have a round door nob, I am in the UK we have stupid door handles,
 

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if you are on a door, do you have a round door nob, I am in the UK we have stupid door handles,
I feed the (flat) rope through the door and wedge it with a big knot, stand up straight with my back and feet against the door and then lean forwards keeping my chin up and back straight. World starts to go dark in 4-5 seconds. No pain.
 
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I feed the (flat) rope through the door and wedge it with a big knot, stand up straight with my back and feet against the door and then lean forwards keeping my chin up and back straight. World starts to go dark in 4-5 seconds. No pain.


I am stoopid I didnt think of this....
rfhis is whyt i am only now researching this option!
PS I haz rum, nothing makes sense now
 
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Is there a trick to getting the rope to cut off the blood circulation to the arteries without crushing the throat in the front?

Edit: also if there is a way to search threads please let me know TY.
 
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