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I was thinking about Chris McCandless. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_McCandless And thinking, most people who are idiots end up accidentally getting themselves killed in their teens or 20s. Not saying everyone who accidentally gets himself or herself killed is an idiot, by the way. So I was thinking, idiots go through less suffering compared to more intelligent people. If I was born an idiot, I'd probably be dead right now. I avoided so many dangerous situations in the past, due to not being an idiot...
 
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Intelligent people don't call other people idiots (unless in a jokingly way). Probably the most destructive defense mechanism that people subscribe to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism

I don't think he means it in a way that's offensive, but rather how it does seem to be easier for people with lower IQs to go through life. At least, on my part, I do agree with him, but I don't mean to offend anybody. If anything I'm jelly.

"Three teenagers (two sisters and a friend) were killed by a train while posing for a selfie, which is just visible in the final picture they posted to Facebook along with the caption "Standing right by a train ahaha this is awesome!!!!"."

Idiots.

And yet I'm here trying to figure out how to do it and when to do it and where I'm going to get the money and all the careful planning and they just take a freaking selfie and they're free :( unfair.
 
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I read a great quote somewhere.. cynicism is not intelligence.

I respectfully disagree. Although it sounds pretty cool, I don't think that's true. In order to be a cynic you need to have some degree of intelligence. People with lower IQs often have difficulty lying successfully, recognizing cynicism and sarcasm because they require more thought process.
 
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Intelligent people don't call other people idiots (unless in a jokingly way). Probably the most destructive defense mechanism that people subscribe to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism

Yeah, they do, all the time. It doesn't mean they say to every idiot they encounter in real life(or on the internet) and say "Hey, you are an idiot." because that would be irrational and cruel. But when having a discussion about idiots, how can you not call other people idiots... What is the alternative? Not having such a discussion in the first place because I might hurt some people's feelings? Living life, never having the discussions I want to have with people because I might hurt some people's feelings? Yeah, I'm not that altruistic. And calling other people idiots is a symptom of narcissism, seriously? EDIT: Just because my vocabulary is different from yours or I don't share your values, doesn't mean I'm not an intelligent person.
 
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It isn't about "people's feelings". It's about tolerance and respect, none of which you seem to possess. If anything, you come off as quite ignorant, and I would say even aggressive.

It doesn't take a smart man to call people whom he has never met "idiots". It does take a smart man to treat everyone with respect, even those who disagree with you.

I highly recommend you to re-think the way you approach discussions, especially if you want to get your point across.
 
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It isn't about "people's feelings". It's about tolerance and respect, none of which you seem to possess. If anything, you come off as quite ignorant, and I would say even aggressive.

It doesn't take a smart man to call people whom he has never met "idiots". It does take a smart man to treat everyone with respect, even those who disagree with you.

I highly recommend you to re-think the way you approach discussions, especially if you want to get your point across.

What you are saying has nothing to do with intelligence but everything to do with your values like being as altruistic as possible at all times no matter what. So it also has to do with people's feelings. Well I don't share all your values. That doesn't make me ignorant. In fact, according to your own values, you are being a hypocrite because you are aren't showing me any tolerance and respect.
 
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Because I called some people "idiots", people who think it's wrong to do so start accusing me of not being intelligent which is a passive aggressive way of calling me an idiot. The hypocrisy.
 
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People who proclaim themselves as intelligent often aren't. See: "Dunning-Kruger Effect". The general consensus among psychologists is that a high IQ generally equates to a higher quality of life. This notion of the "happy, oblivious idiot" is a hollywood caricature (e.g. Forrest Gump). The reality is that intelligent people have it easier in comparision to the less intelligent.
 
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People who proclaim themselves as intelligent often aren't. See: "Dunning-Kruger Effect". The general consensus among psychologists is that a high IQ generally equates to a higher quality of life. This notion of the "happy, oblivious idiot" is a hollywood caricature (e.g. Forrest Gump). The reality is that intelligent people have it easier in comparision to the less intelligent.

Don't know about anyone here but I think something that didn't really help me is being the proclaimed "genius of the family" haha I was adding 2 digit numbers at a young age so I'm basically Einstein right? My mother kind of pushed this for a really long time, made me feel a certain way, and when I went to college and my brain wasn't quite keeping it up it really fucked with me.
 
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People who proclaim themselves as intelligent often aren't. See: "Dunning-Kruger Effect". The general consensus among psychologists is that IQ generally equates to a higher quality of life. This notion of the "happy, oblivious idiot" is a hollywood caricature (e.g. Forrest Gump). The reality is that intelligent people have it easier in comparision to the less intelligent.

The Dunning-Kruger Effect doesn't apply to everyone, FYI. So you are basically calling me an idiot because I said this? "If I was born an idiot, I'd probably be dead right now. I avoided so many dangerous situations in the past, due to not being an idiot..." I was trying to make a point. That point being, idiots suffer less compared to intelligent people. I wasn't just trying to make the point that I'm intelligent.
 
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The Dunning-Kruger Effect doesn't apply to everyone, FYI. So you are basically calling me an idiot because I said this? "If I was born an idiot, I'd probably be dead right now. I avoided so many dangerous situations in the past, due to not being an idiot..." I was trying to make a point. That point being, idiots suffer less compared to intelligent people. I wasn't just trying to make the point that I'm intelligent.
Hey I don't think he was saying that at all btw, relax!

Also I pretty much accept that I'm not really intelligent but how do you define intelligence anyway. Social and emotional intelligence could probably be separated from skill, knowledge and ability based intelligence.
 
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Hey I don't think he was saying that at all btw, relax!

Also I pretty much accept that I'm not really intelligent but how do you define intelligence anyway. Social and emotional intelligence could probably be separated from skill, knowledge and ability based intelligence.

You just don't see it because he is doing it in a really passive aggressive way.
 
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:D

I just wanted to participate with something intelligent in this serious thread. I myself am so intelligent that I'm going to end my intelligent life by my own hand =(
 
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:D

I just wanted to participate with something intelligent in this serious thread. I myself am so intelligent that I'm going to end my intelligent life by my own hand =(
Same buddy, good luck to you
 
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:D

I just wanted to participate with something intelligent in this serious thread. I myself am so intelligent that I'm going to end my intelligent life by my own hand =(

Another personal attack against me. Very nice of you considering when creating this thread, I did not personally attack anyone in this community.
 
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Another personal attack against me. Very nice of you considering when creating this thread, I did not personally attack anyone in this community.
Nobody is attacking you please try to relax.. go get yourself a drink or something
 
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Nobody is attacking you please try to relax.. go get yourself a drink or something

Trying to gaslight me. That's nice too. People who say "Nobody is attacking you" are usually not intelligent according to these psychologists... But I'm not attacking you so please try to relax. Go get a drink or something.
 
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Trying to gaslight me. That's nice too. People who say "Nobody is attacking you" are usually not intelligent according to these psychologists... But I'm not attacking you so please try to relax. Go get a drink or something.
Okay I'm not sure if you really mean it but I'll leave you alone, hope you feel better
 
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Okay I'm not sure if you really mean it but I'll leave you alone, hope you feel better

My third and fourth sentence in the previous response was me being sarcastic to prove a point.
 
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Severen,

You do come across as a bit hostile and aggressive, I noticed this a few days ago and have decided to ignore your posts because you seem to relish in insulting others whom you deem less intelligent than you.

Most folks have something to add to these forums, whatever their level of education or IQ.

Take good care.
 
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Severen

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Severen,

You do come across as a bit hostile and aggressive, I noticed this a few days ago and have decided to ignore your posts because you seem to relish in insulting others whom you deem less intelligent than you.

Most folks have something to add to these forums, whatever their level of education or IQ.

Take good care.

I seem to relish in insulting others whom I deem less intelligent than me, based on what, exactly? This thread? Do you have any other examples? I've also never been hostile and aggressive to anyone in this community until someone in the community has started being hostile and aggressive towards me. And this kind of behavior has only happened in 2 threads(including this one), if I remember correctly. Not once have I been hostile and aggressive to anyone in this community who was friendly to me.
 
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Yeah this is the whole thing about the “everyone is an idiot” mindset. Hyper-sensitivity and arrogant behaviour seem to be part of the attitude of those that hold it.. They can dish it out. But can’t take it. Deep down a defensive mechanism for feelings of inadequacy. True misery. I know I hate it. Complete failure is the only way I’ve become aware of my own past behaviour.
 
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Yeah this is the whole thing about the “everyone is an idiot” mindset. Hyper-sensitivity and arrogant behaviour seem to be part of the attitude of those that hold it.. They can dish it out. But can’t take it. Deep down a defensive mechanism for feelings of inadequacy. True misery. I know I hate it. Complete failure is the only way I’ve become aware of my own past behaviour.

And what makes you think that I think, everyone is an idiot...
 

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