Hercules

Hercules

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I don’t think D replies to his old e -mail anymore. I sent him another e-mail using a different name. He didn’t respond. I don’t know his new e-mail. I can’t download the Nov. edition of the PPH. The link doesn’t work.
 
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Smart No More

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May 5, 2021
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Maybe change the thread title to something more friendly. Something like, "confirmation on D's current status" or something to that effect.?


Just a thought.

Glad it's come through for you all. He's probably been reading the threads lol.
BTW don't check tracking too often as it looks suspicious and draws attention to your package. Also it can take a day or two to register in the shipping info with some couriers. Suddenly showing multiple points of the journey.
 
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canna2

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Nov 20, 2021
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I will, either in this thread or I'll make my own. Now the fun part starts, seeing if it gets through customs...
Whats your country?
Maybe change the thread title to something more friendly. Something like, "confirmation on D's current status" or something to that effect.?


Just a thought.

Glad it's come through for you all. He's probably been reading the threads lol.
BTW don't check tracking too often as it looks suspicious and draws attention to your package. Also it can take a day or two to register in the shipping info with some couriers. Suddenly showing multiple points of the journey.
I doubt it'd raise any suspcision. How many tracking numbers are not checked multiple times a day ? Regardless
 
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Smart No More

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Whats your country?

I doubt it'd raise any suspcision. How many tracking numbers are not checked multiple times a day ? Regardless
It's a golden rule of buying things from dark net markets. I'm just sharing it to be helpful. If you want to disregard it that's upto you.
 
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setup

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Nov 18, 2021
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It's a golden rule of buying things from dark net markets. I'm just sharing it to be helpful. If you want to disregard it that's upto you.
Is it really a thing? So ups would flag it and send it to the authorities?
 
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Smart No More

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May 5, 2021
498
Not sure of the intricacies of it as far as each postal service goes but there's a dark net bible that covers these matters and that's something that is spoken of quite often in vendors notes on Darknet markets. They often don't give out tracking info for 14 days because people are inclined to over check it and get their parcels seized. So yeah, it's a thing. It's considered bad 'opsec'. Opsec meaning operational security. Like I said, take it or leave it.
 
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Nov 18, 2021
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Not sure of the intricacies of it as far as each postal service goes but there's a dark net bible that covers these matters and that's something that is spoken of quite often in vendors notes on Darknet markets. They often don't give out tracking info for 14 days because people are inclined to over check it and get their parcels seized. So yeah, it's a thing. It's considered bad 'opsec'. Opsec meaning operational security. Like I said, take it or leave it.
I don’t doubt you. It makes sense. Just didn’t know there were such protocols n stuff
 
Hercules

Hercules

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I e-mailed D at his old address 3 days ago. I ordered 2 bottles of N, and asked him if I could pay via WU. He didn't respond. This morning, I sent him another e-/mail using a different name. This time, I ordered 2 bottles of N and told him that I would pay him via WU and told him I could send the payment tomorrow. He responded in an hour and gave me the information needed to send the money.

Now I am not sure anymore, if I should go ahead with the order. I think his behaviour is suspicious. It makes me worried that he is going to take my money and run.

I know he has accepted pàyment from other people recently and then ignored them. They haven't received their package.

Some people said that D contacted them yesterday and told them that they didn't receive their package yet because there was a problem with shipping. I hope everyone receives their package. Still, this explaination doesn't make me feel better. D is shipping a controlled substance, and he is suddenly having shipping problems? This has me worried. What type of shipping problems is he having? Is the package he sends suddenly raising suspicions at customs? I think something is wrong.
 
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setup

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Nov 18, 2021
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I e-mailed D at his old address 3 days ago. I ordered 2 bottles of N, and asked him if I could pay via WU. He didn't respond. This morning, I sent him another e-/mail using a different name. This time, I ordered 2 bottles of N and told him that I would pay him via WU and told him I could send the payment tomorrow. He responded in an hour and gave me the information needed to send the money.

Now I am not sure anymore, if I should go ahead with the order. I think his behaviour is suspicious. It makes me worried that he is going to take my money and run.

I know he has accepted pàyment from other people recently and then ignored them. They haven't received their package.

Some people said that D contacted them yesterday and told them that they didn't receive their package yet because there was a problem with shipping. I hope everyone receives their package. Still, this explaination doesn't make me feel better. D is shipping a controlled substance, and he is suddenly having shipping problems? This has me worried. What type of shipping problems is he having? Is the package he sends suddenly raising suspicions at customs? I think something is wrong.
Bro I was skeptical but I think it’s all good. He really was busy/shipping problems. It’s up to u. U can wait for confirmation of people getting theirs or u can order.

I think he’s legit.
 
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fizi22

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Nov 15, 2021
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I e-mailed D at his old address 3 days ago. I ordered 2 bottles of N, and asked him if I could pay via WU. He didn't respond. This morning, I sent him another e-/mail using a different name. This time, I ordered 2 bottles of N and told him that I would pay him via WU and told him I could send the payment tomorrow. He responded in an hour and gave me the information needed to send the money.

Now I am not sure anymore, if I should go ahead with the order. I think his behaviour is suspicious. It makes me worried that he is going to take my money and run.

I know he has accepted pàyment from other people recently and then ignored them. They haven't received their package.

Some people said that D contacted them yesterday and told them that they didn't receive their package yet because there was a problem with shipping. I hope everyone receives their package. Still, this explaination doesn't make me feel better. D is shipping a controlled substance, and he is suddenly having shipping problems? This has me worried. What type of shipping problems is he having? Is the package he sends suddenly raising suspicions at customs? I think something is wrong.
things seem to be good now. only pay with btc or monero man. dont bombard him with emails
 
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Smart No More

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I e-mailed D at his old address 3 days ago. I ordered 2 bottles of N, and asked him if I could pay via WU. He didn't respond. This morning, I sent him another e-/mail using a different name. This time, I ordered 2 bottles of N and told him that I would pay him via WU and told him I could send the payment tomorrow. He responded in an hour and gave me the information needed to send the money.

Now I am not sure anymore, if I should go ahead with the order. I think his behaviour is suspicious. It makes me worried that he is going to take my money and run.

I know he has accepted pàyment from other people recently and then ignored them. They haven't received their package.

Some people said that D contacted them yesterday and told them that they didn't receive their package yet because there was a problem with shipping. I hope everyone receives their package. Still, this explaination doesn't make me feel better. D is shipping a controlled substance, and he is suddenly having shipping problems? This has me worried. What type of shipping problems is he having? Is the package he sends suddenly raising suspicions at customs? I think something is wrong.
As far as him replying to your new email account, I wouldn't read into that too much. He probably just didn't get around to replying to first account and may have deleted it. He isn't struggling for customers by the looks of things so he will assume people will send repeat messages. I suspect if you try sending a follow up from your old email address he may well respond. Take the excuses with a pinch of salt. He may have just been taking a few days away from it all and just chucked out a cursory excuse. Also a shipping issue could mean various things but when you're concerned it's natural to lean towards the worst case scenario. He may judt have needed packaging or it may be that he can only send out so many packages per day in any one place without drawing unwanted attention. There's also the language barrier which can cause things to get confused in translation. He stopped replying for a couple of days and suddenly everyone got their replies and tracking info yesterday. If you're worried just hold out for them to confirm delivery in this thread over the coming days.
 
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Ruined

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I have extremely bad luck so I am not surprised something like this happened. I don't want to cause panic but I am just super
I get that he owes us nothing, but I would imagine this forum is his main source of customers, and it's not like he gets repeat customers, so keeping the level of panic to a minimum would be in his best interest. I quick reply with "sent" or the tracking info would go a long way to keeping

things seem to be good now. only pay with btc or monero man. dont bombard him with emails
Why only pay with BTC or Monero?
 
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Anonymity
Never even considered that, and it's very significant - thank you. But I'm such a crypto newb (and I consider myself fairly computer literate), that Monero is overwhelmingly complex to me. Even all the file verification for the wallet is intimidating...and I don't really have access to a Windows machine for the "easy" method.
 
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eternalmelancholy

eternalmelancholy

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Never even considered that, and it's very significant - thank you. But I'm such a crypto newb (and I consider myself fairly computer literate), that Monero is overwhelmingly complex to me. Even all the file verification for the wallet is intimidating...and I don't really have access to a Windows machine for the "easy" method.


Just use BTC. I don't think you need to use XMR unless you are super paranoid. I don't think the authorities give a shit about personal amounts of N. It is not like you are importing kilos of the stuff.
 
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Ruined

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Just use BTC. I don't think you need to use XMR unless you are super paranoid. I don't think the authorities give a shit about personal amounts of N. It is not like you are importing kilos of the stuff
Okay - so BTC provides sufficient anonymity...I get that. What about the constantly variable value of BTC as a currency? If I buy enough BTC for two bottles of N, I guess I would have to do it immediately before making the payment to D, right? Otherwise, as I understand it, the value of my BTC may decrease...it could even decrease before he checks his payment...leaving me having underpaid him.

I'm feeling very old all of a sudden. But thanks for all your help.
 
eternalmelancholy

eternalmelancholy

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Okay - so BTC provides sufficient anonymity...I get that. What about the constantly variable value of BTC as a currency? If I buy enough BTC for two bottles of N, I guess I would have to do it immediately before making the payment to D, right? Otherwise, as I understand it, the value of my BTC may decrease...it could even decrease before he checks his payment...leaving me having underpaid him.

I'm feeling very old all of a sudden. But thanks for all your help.


That is why I purchased more BTC then I needed. Good thing too because like you said the price dropped a lot within a week.
 
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Ruined

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That is why I purchased more BTC then I needed. Good thing too because like you said the price dropped a lot within a week.
So if I pay him at noon, and he doesn't check his payment until midnight, there's still a likelihood that he will be underpaid - risking my chances of a successful delivery...or does he rely on a screenshot or something of the value at time of payment?
 
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PeacefulTonic

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So if I pay him at noon, and he doesn't check his payment until midnight, there's still a likelihood that he will be underpaid - risking my chances of a successful delivery...or does he rely on a screenshot or something of the value at time of payment?
If it’s the right amount of BTC during the time of sending, he will deliver

Not the exact same time scenario, but I inquired, he sent me his receiving address, and I paid 5 hours or so later. He still confirmed it
 
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eternalmelancholy

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So if I pay him at noon, and he doesn't check his payment until midnight, there's still a likelihood that he will be underpaid - risking my chances of a successful delivery...or does he rely on a screenshot or something of the value at time of payment?


No you should be fine. What I meant was when I bought BTC it took a week for it to be available to me on the exchange. During that time the price changed a bit. You should fine since he checks often. I would buy a little extra though just for insurance.
 
eternalmelancholy

eternalmelancholy

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Mar 24, 2021
901
Why not pay with WU he does accept it.


Because he doesn't say it unless you ask directly. Also you need a real ID card to use WU. In the worst case scenario you can't plausibly deny that you purchased the N to the authorities. It is just good to have an extra layer of anonymity even if the chances of running into legal trouble is very slim.
 
Butterflyfree

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Oct 10, 2021
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Because he doesn't say it unless you ask directly. Also you need a real ID card to use WU. In the worst case scenario you can't plausibly deny that you purchased the N to the authorities. It is just good to have an extra layer of anonymity even if the chances of running into legal trouble is very slim.
I think some here have used WU without any issues. You don't have to have a real ID card to use Western Union, you can use your passport or regular driver's license too. There's even a western union app for your phone that you can use.
 
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eternalmelancholy

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Mar 24, 2021
901
I think some here have used WU without any issues. You don't have to have a real ID card to use Western Union, you can use your passport or regular driver's license too. There's even a western union app for your phone that you can use.

Your passport and driver's license are real IDs. They contain your real information. WU should be the last choice in case you just can't figure out cryptos.
 
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canna2

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Your passport and driver's license are real IDs. They contain your real information. WU should be the last choice in case you just can't figure out cryptos.
I don't think paying with btc is advanced but I would want to pm someone who paid D with btc and ask a couple of questions
 
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Butterflyfree

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Oct 10, 2021
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I just don't feel comfortable with crypto. I can't figure it out and it gives me a panic attack purchasing crypto with all that money when I'm not familiar with how to use it properly with the whole wallet stuff and the fluctuating price ect. I don't have time to get this wrong. I need it clean and smooth and WU is the only choice for me.
 
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steve_s5

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Question: Does any have the address of D? Would be nice wen somebody could send via pm thanks!
 
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