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dmoon

Student
Nov 23, 2021
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Hi,
I am young and in a deep depression. I hate the idea of hanging or SN or even N. Instead, I would be interested in assisted suicide in Europe. I know that officially it is almost impossible to get, but maybe there are some "underground" clinics that provide something like this? Price is not a problem, I have resources.
 
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Smart No More

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May 5, 2021
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It would still be N. That's what the assisted suicide organisation deem the most humane. I would be very careful about getting involved with any underground offerings as there's a high liklihood you'll lose your money or be poorly treated because there is no regulation of underground activities. Young with mental health issues will obviously be an issue to anybody reputable but you can still contact one of the assisted suicide organisations and ask to be assessed. If money is no issue that's your best option. Again, it would still be N.
 
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Nov 18, 2021
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Hi,
I am young and in a deep depression. I hate the idea of hanging or SN or even N. Instead, I would be interested in assisted suicide in Europe. I know that officially it is almost impossible to get, but maybe there are some "underground" clinics that provide something like this? Price is not a problem, I have resources.
I doubt underground suicide clinics exist. It’s just murder. It sounds like you like the idea but I don’t think ur ready. It’s ur life and u can do what u want, but I think u should just talk to someone
 
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dmoon

Student
Nov 23, 2021
189
You have money. Then buy N
There are two problems:
1) Obtaining it is risky, it is illegal so you can have potential problems with the law.
2) If you drink N alone, there is always something that can go wrong.

I prefer a more reliable way to CTB.
 
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dmoon

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Nov 23, 2021
189
Yep, thanks. I talk to someone all the time but am still depressed as fuck. Two months ago I was the happiest man on the heart. I had everything, health, mental health, looks, girlfriend, amazing job, and respect of the family - ruined it all in the stupidest way ever. I am thinking about CTB because guilt eats me alive. Depression is very strong, cannot enjoy anything. Cannot sleep even with strong pills, deepest depression you can imagine. I was in a psychiatric war - didn't help. I took pills - didn't help. I talked to the therapist - didn't help.

What else can I do? I have resources so wanted to make good use of them.
 
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FromGermany

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Oct 23, 2021
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"Depression is very strong, cannot enjoy anything."

I know, how you feel.

"I am thinking about CTB because guilt eats me alive."

This is only my personal opinion, but the feeling of guilt can be overcomed with the time and should not be a CTB reason, at least one should try it. 2 months are too short to overcome the feeling of guilt.

I have lost my beloved wife almost 3 years ago and somethimes it felts like it was one week ago. Some sadness like that will never go away, never, but the feeling of guilt is a different story in my opinion.
 
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sandalphon

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Aug 19, 2021
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Hi,
I am young and in a deep depression. I hate the idea of hanging or SN or even N. Instead, I would be interested in assisted suicide in Europe. I know that officially it is almost impossible to get, but maybe there are some "underground" clinics that provide something like this? Price is not a problem, I have resources.
You are not going to find an "underground" suicide clinic. And assisted suicide for young depressed people is still far away from reality, even in Europe.
There are two problems:
1) Obtaining it is risky, it is illegal so you can have potential problems with the law.
2) If you drink N alone, there is always something that can go wrong.

1. So are underground suicide clinics, but these don't actually exist so it's a moot point. Also, very few people are actually arrested for buying N. In fact, I have never heard of that happening. Worst case scenario is you don't receive the product.
2. This is highly, highly unlikely. N has a very high success rate, almost 100%. Even antiemetics aren't necessary if you're healthy and young.

Tl;dr, just buying N is much more realistic than what you're planning.
 
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dmoon

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Nov 23, 2021
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1. So are underground suicide clinics, but these don't actually exist so it's a moot point. Also, very few people are actually arrested for buying N. In fact, I have never heard of that happening. Worst case scenario is you don't receive the product.
And there is another problem... the possibility of fake product. imagine that you order your bottle and think that you have a legit N, you drink it and nothing happens or worse, it destroys your body/brain. That's something that can happen with the product bought from an illegal source.

2. This is highly, highly unlikely. N has a very high success rate, almost 100%. Even antiemetics aren't necessary if you're healthy and young.
I am not sure about that. How do you know that it is almost 100% ? Do you have some data that covers your claim?
 
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LittleJem

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Jul 3, 2019
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Whatever has happened...if your depression has only been two months then don’t make a hasty decision. You are young enough to start again. I’m in my 40s, 30 years of depression under my belt. I am currently trying my third medication. Don’t give up yet...how about ayahuasca? Or another med.

Re depression, Dignitas says no to mental illness and no to under 50s.
 
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eternalmelancholy

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Mar 24, 2021
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I am not sure about that. How do you know that it is almost 100% ? Do you have some data that covers your claim?

In clinical settings I believe 15g of N is enough to kill every single patient. There was a story about one person who fell into a coma but they eventually passed away.

I also highly recommend antiemetics and fasting prior to ingesting N. Why take the chance when simple precaution is easy to do.

Re depression, Dignitas says no to mental illness and no to under 50s.

Belgium has the most lax laws around euthanasia. They approve for mental illness and also minors. But unlike other European countries they do not take tourists/noncitizens.
 
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dmoon

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Nov 23, 2021
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But unlike other European countries they do not take tourists/noncitizens.
Ugh what a pity I am not a Belgium citizen :(