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Neville1

Student
Aug 26, 2019
170
I'm listing member handles of those who attempted with SN to help others in deciding on its reliability by reading their postings. All of them were hurting and I wish no disrespect. They shared their stories for the benefit of other members.

Being successful requires some hours of privacy and 4 elements: fasting 8 hours, appropriate antiemetic, acid reducer and sufficient dosage and purity of SN. Details are found in the wiki and megathread. I've found only 2 failures with stat dose and none with 48 hour.

All failures were due to vomiting, being found or calling emergencies. Alone time can be planned and it's your choice to call for help. However, you might not know that you're prone to vomiting for whom no oral method is recommended.

@Eden2k and @Funkygibbon both failed initially, learned from the attempt and were subsequently successful.

Please add to the thread missing member names or story links.

Successful:
@Geesuicide
@Minudah
@Eden2k
@Crest33
@Wantingpeace
@Kakabushi
@Tristesse
@Funkygibbon
@Whatshername
@Northerngirl1965
@Edrudd
@zadig777
@Purple777
@Jackblade
@Kemis
@Spartacus00
@Kukubananas

Unsuccessful:
@zajebistakaczka
@drakewantstogo
@axorz
@Suicidal4Ever
@21Neberg
@Jen0804
@Querry1
 
Roger

Roger

I Liked Ike
May 11, 2019
975
OP has obviously put time and effort into compiling his list.

But what real evidence is there for the cases claimed to be successful ?

There can be no doubt whatsoever about the tragic @Kakabushi (Shawn Shatto) and there may very likely be other cases where verifiable evidence exists.

However, the simple fact of leaving the forum after a declaration that “I’m doing it now/tomorrow” is not satisfactory evidence of success, and I think that those who uncritically choose to believe otherwise are naïve and guilty of wishful thinking.
 
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Neville1

Student
Aug 26, 2019
170
There are news items and obits to support the deaths of the first six. I won't provide the links but they can be found searching this site.

Because of the anonymity of the forum, neither successes nor failures can be otherwise verified. Possibly @zajebistakaczka staged her live post. She's still on social media.
 
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Neville1

Student
Aug 26, 2019
170
There's more than 1 case in public media and confirmed among members of lethal self ingestion of SN.

In January PPHb, 4 cases were reported.


Members have reported that an April EI videos says it's now 6.

In the media are Ximena Knol, Vittore Pecchini,and a Brazilian lady.


The obits of @Eden2k and @Wantingpeace as well as news reports of @Geesuicide and @Crest33 are easily found searching this site. The deaths are easily collaborated with other information about them, their plans and postings. The obit of @Minudah expired at her synagogue.

Except for @Kakabushi none posted live and only @Geesuicide posted goodby. @Crest33 went to woods and @Eden2k, @Wantingpeace, and @Geesuicide chatted. They weren't seeking the attention of the forum just shared their plans and experience.

Geez, does anyone doubt its lethality?
 
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Stan

Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
No, I have not any doubt about its lethality. It is a toxic.
What if I have a lot of doubts about it is a method reliable and painless.

with my rudimentary research from a non-clinician, this is how I see it. SN produces methemoglobin which removes the oxygen from the bloodstream. The liver and other biological process try and remove this and replace it with hemoglobin that does carry oxygen. I believe the dose of 15 - 20gm is there to overload the system so the hemoglobin can't be restored quick enough regardless of your metabolism. If done that way, one of the early symptoms should be drowsiness and then unconsciousness due to the brain being deprived of oxygen. There is a symptom that people breath a lot quicker but there is no discomfort as say with CO2 poisoning as the lungs accept that you are taking in air. Being not found and not having intervention is also key. Even though I am looking at autopsy and clinical notes, they only talk about the medical stuff rather than saying how they were found, did they call assistance or were found by someone. Everyone has different tolerances and I guess different times to unconsciousness and death is to be expected. But there are a few reports from members who have passed that either mentions nausea, a manageable headache or blurred vision before they logged off. I have seen that people have taken sedatives to help them get to sleep a bit quicker.

But without having a full scientific investigation into why those who failed did so I cannot speculate. But I do know that I nearly bought the wrong purity SN so its worth double checking.
 
Dubs

Dubs

I exist without my consent.
Aug 16, 2018
176
I'm not passing judgement on any single user, but we also have to keep in mind that prolife people have been known to try to dissuade us from using popular methods and dealers. I would guess some of the "failures" could be "good Samaritans" trying to avert us from using it.
 
Dutch

Dutch

Student
Feb 13, 2019
129
OP has obviously put time and effort into compiling his list.

But what real evidence is there for the cases claimed to be successful ?

There can be no doubt whatsoever about the tragic @Kakabushi (Shawn Shatto) and there may very likely be other cases where verifiable evidence exists.

However, the simple fact of leaving the forum after a declaration that “I’m doing it now/tomorrow” is not satisfactory evidence of success, and I think that those who uncritically choose to believe otherwise are naïve and guilty of wishful thinking.
Totally agree with you, there is no evidence at all for most people that it actually happend.
some people come here just for attention or to troll, and then they logout and wont came back again. lol

This is also exactly why i dont gonna create a topic or post it when i took Primperan or SN,
cause there is no point of sharing this information without any further proof.
 
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mathquestions12345

Member
Apr 17, 2018
22
Do we know the locations / states of any of the people whose handles are in the first post. There might be vital records of the event.
 
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Stan

Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
Does anyone know what the options are with regards to livestreaming. I am thinking of recording my SN suicide so that others can see what its like, but I don't want it entirely public i.e. like a livestreaming service where I could invite a few people from here who want to SN but don't know what to expect. Does anyone know a service like this? And would this put others into trouble?
The only time I have heard of that being done was through news reports on TV and newspapers and the backlash was pretty severe
 
bigj75

bigj75

“From Knowledge springs power."
Sep 1, 2018
2,541
I don't think anyone will really know.. Its your decision whether you take the information as gospel or its someone doing it for shits and giggles.
I don't see why they would have a reason to lie unless just for attention.
 
Stan

Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
I don't see why they would have a reason to lie unless just for attention.
A number of options
1. It was real and they were successful
2. It was real, failed for whatever reason and decided that ctb was not on their plans anymore
3. It was fake and someone either exercising a poor sense of humour or just being a plain idiot
4. prolifer trying to put you off your plan

Probably some more in there but can't think of them right now
 
Rocksandsand

Rocksandsand

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May 26, 2019
396
I’ve started my 48hrs... not sure I’ll follow through with it but I’ll keep you guys updated if I do. I’m also considering trying an SN enema - if I do that I will probably create a thread for live (albeit disgusting) updates
 
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Neville1

Student
Aug 26, 2019
170
how do you know?
I'm listing all narratives. Anyone needing external confirmation (I've mentioned 6 in the thread and have since found 2 more) can ignore the thread. I regret not clarifying this in the original post.

I've found much consistency in member narratives, not in their words, but in the experiences and many of them reflect what has been reported in medical journals. They report feeling effects that were not originally reported by PK but are now. They were responsive beyond times reported by PK and now his recommendation is increased from 15 g to 25.
 
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Stan

Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
I’ve started my 48hrs... not sure I’ll follow through with it but I’ll keep you guys updated if I do. I’m also considering trying an SN enema - if I do that I will probably create a thread for live (albeit disgusting) updates
Not sure how dignified that would be. Would also be a lot quicker if my poor knowledge is correct as you are bypassing the digestive route. Personally i would be concerned if I lost sphincter control if I had a convulsion and it all came out. Which why I am going down a syringe path along with taking it orally
 
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Rocksandsand

Rocksandsand

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May 26, 2019
396
I’ve been thinking about IV for a while. I’m just not sure how it would go in a vein? I think it’s given as an antidote to some poisons though so it should be possible?
 
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Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
I’ve been thinking about IV for a while. I’m just not sure how it would go in a vein? I think it’s given as an antidote to some poisons though so it should be possible?
Yes, written about this method in a number of threads about SN. Does not need to go into a vein necessarily. I will be injecting my thigh and arm muscle
 
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MAIO

Elementalist
Apr 8, 2018
838
OP has obviously put time and effort into compiling his list.

But what real evidence is there for the cases claimed to be successful ?

There can be no doubt whatsoever about the tragic @Kakabushi (Shawn Shatto) and there may very likely be other cases where verifiable evidence exists.

However, the simple fact of leaving the forum after a declaration that “I’m doing it now/tomorrow” is not satisfactory evidence of success, and I think that those who uncritically choose to believe otherwise are naïve and guilty of wishful thinking.

I personally knew a user in real life not listed here that CTB with SN, you could probably even swing it as an accidental death if you said you were using it to help you work out, made lots of future plans with others acting excited, etc. The successful rate is great if you do it somewhere you won't be found preferably a house you own., there are certain methods where you can't be saved after using your method, that have a 100% success rate if you do it right.
 
Stan

Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
I will share the reasons why I am so interested in looking at this information as its my method of choice. I want to know the details of the method that if they were successfully used in the past that I can replicate them. What will happen from the time of ingestion to unconsciousness, if its really painful then I should consider a more peaceful option, if its mild discomfort then I am sure my pain threshold will tolerate it or compensate with painkillers. So I truly appreciate the effort that @Neville1 has put in this and its up to us individually whether we trust the data or not
 
Stan

Stan

Factoid Hunter
Aug 29, 2019
2,589
I personally get too over excited about this method because I have literally spent days researching it both inside this forum and using outside resources. I will be cataloguing everything that i will be doing, including the syringe process and how I made the solution as it does not need to be as strong as the solution taken orally and posting it here. I will try as much as I can to post the effects shortly after the oral/injection application to help understand how I am feeling. But they maybe hopefully a short time as if my guess is correct, the injections will work way quicker so I am hoping to hit the 3 minute mark to drowsiness and quick unconsciousness which is basically what N would do anyway