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didn't you make payment using WU and then cancel it (did you do it online) If he gives you the same information i just wondered if it might flag up?? i don't know this for sure but if it did they would wonder why you sent money to someone, cancelled it and then resent to the same person.

I'm just thinking outside the box, so you wouldn't have problems.
 
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Does anyone know the consequences of N being seized in Europe? Is it just loss of money or criminal angle too? thanks.
Would also like to know this, especially in Netherlands. Please PM if you have tips :)
 
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Joplin said:
Would also like to know this, especially in Netherlands. Please PM if you have tips :)
I’ve only heard of them confiscating it. One lady went to jail in NZ but she was caught importing it and then selling it. Got 5 years. When they raided lots of places around Europe, Australia, NZ, US in 2019 after infiltrating exit, they just seized the goods and then left. Don’t think anything really happened to anyone.
 
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I’ve only heard of them confiscating it. One lady went to jail in NZ but she was caught importing it and then selling it. Got 5 years. When they raided lots of places around Europe, Australia, NZ, US in 2019 after infiltrating exit, they just seized the goods and then left. Don’t think anything really happened to anyone.
Thanks! :) Very useful. So worst is a fine and a mental health visit from the Police? Guessing then just need a solid story or ability to deny involvement and then a good hiding place for the N, maybe?
 
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Thanks! :) Very useful. So worst is a fine and a mental health visit from the Police? Guessing then just need a solid story or ability to deny involvement and then a good hiding place for the N, maybe?
I am more concerned if A is still a legit seller,btw i am from the Netherlands too :)
 
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Well that's a good thing to hear. I am wondering about the purity. If it contains 51 mg/ml we can say that is the real stuff, but why is concentration lower than expected? Can you ask directly to EC? Thanks
You can have some error in the concentration if you don't skake the bottle as mentioned before :)
 
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Thanks! :) Very useful. So worst is a fine and a mental health visit from the Police? Guessing then just need a solid story or ability to deny involvement and then a good hiding place for the N, maybe?
Know your rights and if anyone turns up deny deny deny. They cannot come in without a warrant. So if you they don’t have one, don’t let them past the door. Stand your ground. Lots do just let them in and that’s where they go wrong. Then lots just have in fridge so it’s easily found. If they do have a warrant, let them in and if you’ve hidden it well, they won’t find it. They are not going to turn your whole house upside down like they do in the movies. If they then find it, still say you have no idea about it. They can’t link it to you just because it’s on your house. Always make sure you throw out the packaging straight away and delete all emails with A or D. Maybe even take the packaging off the premises to bin off the street somewhere if bin man isn’t coming for a while.

I don’t even think people have had a fine. Cops know they can’t really prove anything if you deny deny deny and if they find no connection and it’s not worth the cost of investigation when it’s something so minor and see you’re suicidal. A couple of bottles of N isn’t big on the things they deal with. In US and Europe, I think a couple went to the mental ward for a short time and then came out but they let them in, admitted to everything and found it in fridge all without a warrant.
 
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Know your rights and if anyone turns up deny deny deny. They cannot come in without a warrant. So if you they don’t have one, don’t let them past the door. Stand your ground. Lots do just let them in and that’s where they go wrong. Then lots just have in fridge so it’s easily found. If they do have a warrant, let them in and if you’ve hidden it well, they won’t find it. They are not going to turn your whole house upside down like they do in the movies. If they then find it, still say you have no idea about it. They can’t link it to you just because it’s on your house. Always make sure you throw out the packaging straight away and delete all emails with A or D. Maybe even take the packaging off the premises to bin off the street somewhere if bin man isn’t coming for a while.

I don’t even think people have had a fine. Cops know they can’t really prove anything if you deny deny deny and if they find no connection and it’s not worth the cost of investigation when it’s something so minor and see you’re suicidal. A couple of bottles of N isn’t big on the things they deal with. In US and Europe, I think a couple went to the mental ward for a short time and then came out but they let them in, admitted to everything and found it in fridge all without a warrant.
Thank you so much!! It’s nerve wrecking stuff. I think I might take the gamble on N. Going to research all I can and then do it. I will take all the advice you have given and hope for the best. I just pray I won’t get a criminal record. But I’m guessing that would push me to use another method too so hopefully win win. Why they need to make it so hard!! Urghhh! :/
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I am more concerned if A is still a legit seller,btw i am from the Netherlands too :)
Cool that you live here too! :D Do you think there are any real concerns for prosecution in The Netherlands? Will you use A or D?
 
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I did a taste test last night. I am trying to be considerate with the N I have. I have 200ml total, but I want to make sure I am not wasting it needlessly.

I took 0.5ML out with a syringe and then squirted it in my mouth and then held it for a few seconds to make sure I could handle the taste. The taste was pretty bad. It tasted like the worst parts of alcohol mixed with what I can only describe as a metallic and bitter taste. I felt a little bit like throwing up for a second after tasting it. I'm going to do more research into mixing it with something else to try and mask the taste. I think people have said Dignitas sometimes use OJ? My plan would be to fast, eat toast, mix N with something like OJ, and then chase it down with a little dark chocolate and some sort of alcohol. I don't really drink alcohol so suggestions might be nice. I think I would need something that is reasonably high proof, is easy to stomach, and might do a good job distracting from the flavor of the N.

The 0.5ML wasn't enough to make me feel sleepy. This is expected though because it is an incredibly small dose. I tried to go to bed directly afterwards, but it still took me over an hour to get to sleep.

Another random thought, but does anyone have any thoughts on "miracle berry" pills. I've never tried them but they are cheap. Something to mess with my sense of taste might be helpful in consuming 200ML of N.
 
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I had been thinking about the miracle berry thing too. Makes sour stuff sweet, right? I'll be very interested to know how you get on if you experiment with that.

IIRC the PPH mentions people drinking irish cream (baileys) after having their N. I'm not sure how much of that is a preference/taste thing though.

Are you going to source Meto or antiemtics of any kind? After your taste report I'm leaning more towards that being a neccesity. Was it really bad? Are you somebody who eats adventurously usually?

BTW, it seems that mixing you N with anything is highly discouraged as it just creates a larger volume of bad tasting stuff to consume. That said, I can't help wondering if adding sugar could help.
 
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Smart No More said:
I had been thinking about the miracle berry thing too. Makes sour stuff sweet, right? I'll be very interested to know how you get on if you experiment with that.

IIRC the PPH mentions people drinking irish cream (baileys) after having their N. I'm not sure how much of that is a preference/taste thing though.

Are you going to source Meto or antiemtics of any kind? After your taste report I'm leaning more towards that being a neccesity. Was it really bad? Are you somebody who eats adventurously usually?

BTW, it seems that mixing you N with anything is highly discouraged as it just creates a larger volume of bad tasting stuff to consume. That said, I can't help wondering if adding sugar could help.
I think the taste of the N will still overpower the miracle berries, but it might be worth testing. It seems like most people use miracle berries to make sour foods into sweet foods, but they say it works on other foods as well (hot sauce/beer are named on the Wikipedia article).

I would say I am reasonably tolerant of different tastes in food. N just tasted like something else entirely.

I ordered Zofran from a DNM maybe a week ago. It hasn't arrived yet. I looked around for meto but I couldn't find it outside of one listing that I wasn't sure about.

I also bought Dramamine because it is cheap and readily available. I am unlikely to use the Dramamine, but I figured I might as well have it. Something is better than nothing.

Sourcing meto seems harder. I might have to try an actual doctor to get meto. I'm not very good at lying so I feel like a doctor might see through whatever story I craft, and they might question me if I request meto specifically.
 
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lifesucksiguess said:
I think the taste of the N will still overpower the miracle berries, but it might be worth testing. It seems like most people use miracle berries to make sour foods into sweet foods, but they say it works on other foods as well (hot sauce/beer are named on the Wikipedia article).

I would say I am reasonably tolerant of different tastes in food. N just tasted like something else entirely.

I ordered Zofran from a DNM maybe a week ago. It hasn't arrived yet. I looked around for meto but I couldn't find it outside of one listing that I wasn't sure about.

I also bought Dramamine because it is cheap and readily available. I am unlikely to use the Dramamine, but I figured I might as well have it. Something is better than nothing.

Sourcing meto seems harder. I might have to try an actual doctor to get meto. I'm not very good at lying so I feel like a doctor might see through whatever story I craft, and they might question me if I request meto specifically.
Meto is widely available from clearnet foreign mail order pharmacies without a prescription
 
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Thank you so much!! It’s nerve wrecking stuff. I think I might take the gamble on N. Going to research all I can and then do it. I will take all the advice you have given and hope for the best. I just pray I won’t get a criminal record. But I’m guessing that would push me to use another method too so hopefully win win. Why they need to make it so hard!! Urghhh! :/

Cool that you live here too! :D Do you think there are any real concerns for prosecution in The Netherlands? Will you use A or D?
I have contact both,only D has responded to me .
D counts 1G for 2 bottles shipped to our country if you want to know,if i can not put prices here please let me know.
As far as i know they have no test(at customs) for N so they can not do anything,but i am not sure if that is still the case...
 
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an alternative to meto is motilium which is much more accessible and can be bought without a prescription if you insist on pharmacy, + mixing N with another substance such as it is is not recommended ~ this can reduce priorities from N.
 
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Has anyone here used Moneygram to purchase N from A? Does he accept it? I'm Bitcoin illiterate.
 
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Has anyone here used Moneygram to purchase N from A? Does he accept it? I'm Bitcoin illiterate.
I tried to use WU last time. He asked for the mtcn. He said he can take either WU or Moneygram, both of which give you mtcn.
 
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alown said:
an alternative to meto is motilium which is much more accessible and can be bought without a prescription if you insist on pharmacy, + mixing N with another substance such as it is is not recommended ~ this can reduce priorities from N.
It isn't available in the US. I have to buy from a foreign pharmacy either way. I ordered meto from Inhouse.
 
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azazel_djinn said:
I tried to use WU last time. He asked for the mtcn. He said he can take either WU or Moneygram, both of which give you mtcn.
So Moneygram would automatically provide me with a mtcn which I provide to A and then he’ll give me my N?
 
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Wrennie said:
I’m sorry but what does ‘mtcn’ mean?
Money Tracking Control Number
Wrennie said:
I’m sorry but what does ‘mtcn’ mean?
You will get one when you finish arranging the payment (at least if you use the app).
 
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azazel_djinn said:
Money Tracking Control Number

You will get one when you finish arranging the payment (at least if you use the app).
Thank you for the info. Is there anything else I’d need to know about initiating a transaction with Moneygram? All A needs is the mtcn in order to receive his payment?

I won’t have to do anything in-person, it’s all online?
 
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Thank you for the info. Is there anything else I’d need to know about initiating a transaction with Moneygram? All A needs is the mtcn in order to receive his payment?

I won’t have to do anything in-person, it’s all online?
Sorry...I thought you were talking about D. I only contacted D before and he gave me these options of payment. When you tell him what payment you choose he will guide you through the detailed process. According to him, mtcn is all you need to give him once you've arranged the payment.

I tried WU, but I canceled the first time because I was not completely convinced that he was legit. I'm probably going to try again soon since recently I've seen a lot of successful reports of his delivery.
 
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azazel_djinn said:
Sorry...I thought you were talking about D. I only contacted D before and he gave me these options of payment. When you tell him what payment you choose he will guide you through the detailed process. According to him, mtcn is all you need to give him once you've arranged the payment.

I tried WU, but I canceled the first time because I was not completely convinced that he was legit. I'm probably going to try again soon since recently I've seen a lot of successful reports of his delivery.
That’s interesting because D only gave me the option of paying with Bitcoin or Monero. He sent me a response to my email upfront outlining the general details, and every time he mentioned payment it was always just “Bitcoin, Monero” listed. Do you think I could specifically request Moneygram from him?
 
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That’s interesting because D only gave me the option of paying with Bitcoin or Monero. He sent me a response to my email upfront outlining the general details, and every time he mentioned payment it was always just “Bitcoin, Monero” listed. Do you think I could specifically request Moneygram from him?
It's just "general details outlines", I think he is flexible. Just tell him you want to use Moneygram and see what he says.
 
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It's just "general details outlines", I think he is flexible. Just tell him you want to use Moneygram and see what he says.
Thank you, I’ll try.
 
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Wrennie said:
Thank you for the info. Is there anything else I’d need to know about initiating a transaction with Moneygram? All A needs is the mtcn in order to receive his payment?

I won’t have to do anything in-person, it’s all online?

you get the number on the receipt from moneygram, it says he prefers a picture of the receipt if possible. so you can just fwd the email to him.

then he'll ask for your address
 
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I think the taste of the N will still overpower the miracle berries, but it might be worth testing. It seems like most people use miracle berries to make sour foods into sweet foods, but they say it works on other foods as well (hot sauce/beer are named on the Wikipedia article).

I would say I am reasonably tolerant of different tastes in food. N just tasted like something else entirely.

I ordered Zofran from a DNM maybe a week ago. It hasn't arrived yet. I looked around for meto but I couldn't find it outside of one listing that I wasn't sure about.

I also bought Dramamine because it is cheap and readily available. I am unlikely to use the Dramamine, but I figured I might as well have it. Something is better than nothing.

Sourcing meto seems harder. I might have to try an actual doctor to get meto. I'm not very good at lying so I feel like a doctor might see through whatever story I craft, and they might question me if I request meto specifically.

Do you know anything about promethazine? Do you know if it's any good for our purposes? Also, did you manage to get the Meto you mentioned ordering in house?
 
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Do you know anything about promethazine? Do you know if it's any good for our purposes? Also, did you manage to get the Meto you mentioned ordering in house?
I don't know about promethazine. It is going to take a few weeks to get the meto. Inhouse is a pharmacy that I found on other threads on this forum. Inhouse seems to be a reputable site, used a lot by the trans community to get hormone treatments.

They called me up today to make sure my bank details are correct. Their ordering is a bit weird. They don't accept credit cards or PayPal.

On a different note. I did a second N taste test. This time I used miracle fruit tablets I bought off of Amazon. Just like I expected it did practically nothing. I'll probably use them anyway because they didn't make it any worse and they might have dulled the flavor by like 1%.
 
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What about something that numbs the tongue/mouth/throat?

I had an endoscopy and they used lydocaine I think. Short lasting and tastee pretty bad itself but only very briefly as it was all numb in seconds.

I'm not sure on the availability of it or any potential interactions but it may be worth looking into. I'd rather a numbness than nastiness. Those last moments should be good ones but really all I'm worried about is being able to get enough in me and not bringing it back up.

I have tried some promethazine today. I honestly can't say I've noticed much if any effects. It's been about 45min since I took it. It was prescribed to help with sleep but so far I feel more awake.
 
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Well, I may have spoken too soon on the promethazine. It took effect eventually but I can't say much about the way it impacts nausea. It did make me feel a bit crappy though. I still don't feel great today either. Could be due to poor health though.
 
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Well, I think I have found two members, now before you buy Pentobarbital be sure to know the side effects, :smiling:

Sweet girls wonder why they chose this subject. I hope they passed, :smiling:


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