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mandyjohnuk

mandyjohnuk

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Jul 6, 2021
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Hi.
Are we aloud to message one another and openly discuss methods as this kind of communication would be between 2 people personally and not openly visible to all.
 
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caligula

caligula

DE MYSTERIIS DOM SATHANAS
Jun 24, 2020
17
Glad I saved all the webpages for methods. I don't forsee this ending well. So much for having a place where people understand me, and I them.
If you've still got them, could you shoot me a DM? I don't have enough experience to be in the new sub fourm
 
whywaitfortheworst

whywaitfortheworst

New Member
Jan 7, 2022
4
Hi.
Are we aloud to message one another and openly discuss methods as this kind of communication would be between 2 people personally and not openly visible to all.
I'm interested in discussing, if you'd like to Dm
 
wait.what

wait.what

no really, what?
Aug 14, 2020
171
Just reminding people NEVER to post identifying information on the internet in general, and on this site in particular. Not in DMs, not anywhere. Think twice about even mentioning the nation, state, or province you're from. If someone knows where you live, they can find out what laws are in force in your area. Discussing suicide methods may be illegal in some jurisdictions. Don't go to prison. Your life will not improve there.
 
mandyjohnuk

mandyjohnuk

Student
Jul 6, 2021
171
DM is only visible to an individual and not visible to the whole forum. DM is perfectly acceptable as it's personal one to one.
 
Kikoo Loool

Kikoo Loool

Enlightened
Feb 25, 2019
1,111
I'm sad that this website will now lose one of its highest interest.
 
wait.what

wait.what

no really, what?
Aug 14, 2020
171
DM is only visible to an individual and not visible to the whole forum. DM is perfectly acceptable as it's personal one to one.
I know, but not everyone is who they claim to be. 18/f/Los Angeles may actually be 47/m/Leavenworth, you know? Or 47/m/secret police bunker, whichever.

Be cautious, because believe it or not, your life could always get worse somehow.
 
justsayin

justsayin

Member
Jan 30, 2021
384
DM is only visible to an individual and not visible to the whole forum. DM is perfectly acceptable as it's personal one to one.

Giving any kind of personal information to strangers on the Internet, or getting advice from them, is anything but perfectly acceptable.

All new members should read these threads before engaging in any kind of direct communication:
 
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mandyjohnuk

mandyjohnuk

Student
Jul 6, 2021
171
Giving any kind of personal information to strangers on the Internet, or getting advice from them, is anything but perfectly acceptable.

All new members should read these threads before engaging in any kind of direct communication:
It's a terrible thing but and here's the big but. DM is not meeting with someone.
 
justsayin

justsayin

Member
Jan 30, 2021
384
It's a terrible thing but and here's the big but. DM is not meeting with someone.

That's not a big but, or regular but. One does not need to meet others in order to harm them. That should be pretty obvious from the second thread that I have linked, without even mentioning doxxing, catfishing, threatening and other nasty things that happened here.

I can't believe we are even having this conversation. Getting suicide instructions from a stranger is among the dumbest things one can do on the Internet. Large number of forum members have no idea what they are talking about in the first place. What prevents them from doing serious harm is vigilance of others that react and engage in discussion.

Assisting suicide is a crime in most countries, and forum rules clearly say:
Moreover, be advised that NO ONE on this site will advise you on how to end your life. Helping someone die, including advising and including specifics, is against the rules of the site and is unethical.
 
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mandyjohnuk

mandyjohnuk

Student
Jul 6, 2021
171
Discussions of and about suicide is not a crime. However assisting us like you say.
 
omarnevis

omarnevis

New Member
Jan 14, 2022
2
Glad I saved all the webpages for methods. I don't forsee this ending well. So much for having a place where people understand me, and I them.
Hi I would like to get to see these methods too. I am very much frustrated that I have missed the window of this. Please DM me
 
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myopybyproxy

Experienced
Dec 18, 2021
209
So...where are the mystical new subforums? Still don't see them.
 
mandyjohnuk

mandyjohnuk

Student
Jul 6, 2021
171
This is not good. This forum has falling victim and foul to the powers that be and have silenced the information that was of great comfort to all. I'm leaving as this forum site is nothing more than a venting forum of control. Bye.
 
Chinaski

Chinaski

Perchance to dream
Sep 1, 2018
1,816
This is not good. This forum has falling victim and foul to the powers that be and have silenced the information that was of great comfort to all. I'm leaving as this forum site is nothing more than a venting forum of control. Bye.
I don't get this tbh, there have been a few posters leave for this reason with a message of thinly-veiled antagonism when the archives are still there and searchable, every single method question has been asked and answered several times already and is still visible, there is a forum for this discussion to continue but this is kept away from casual onlookers, seriously what is the problem?

(also why do people feel the need to do a big I AM LEAVING IN PROTEST post, ffs the admin were doxxed by a huge media outlet, get real imo)
 
raindrops

raindrops

Experienced
Mar 29, 2020
297
Im not active much anymore, if at all.
Sometimes I lurk, tbh it has saddened me to see this post.
In my entire time of being signed up here as a member I have never told anyone about this website, friends or family. Not because this is a BAD place but because it is sensitive and private and personal and so not on to bring people here who do not know this feeling, at all well.
It's such a shame because SS was there for me when I needed those methods explaining, and yet I'm still here, I say that sensitively as not all who I met are here still. But those methods didn't push me, they were explained so well I realised the dangers, not death but disability, how it could effect others. All or those methods helped me understand.
Thank you and I hope SS stays ❤
These advocates should advocate to find all of the real criminals online. So sad.
 
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myopybyproxy

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Dec 18, 2021
209
I don't get this tbh, there have been a few posters leave for this reason with a message of thinly-veiled antagonism when the archives are still there and searchable, every single method question has been asked and answered several times already and is still visible, there is a forum for this discussion to continue but this is kept away from casual onlookers, seriously what is the problem?

(also why do people feel the need to do a big I AM LEAVING IN PROTEST post, ffs the admin were doxxed by a huge media outlet, get real imo)
My guess is people are frustrated with the censorship. Method information aside, it is the discussion that draws people in - after all, this is a forum and not an archive like lostallhope (yet). I took a break for that reason. Feeling like we cannot be open and candid about our innermost thoughts is more than disappointing. For many, this was all they had. I bounce between various online platforms and delete posts and accounts regularly, so I don't feel the nostalgia - or however it is called - that these people may. However, I can guess at the sense of betrayal and loss they probably feel. There is no online home for their socially unacceptable side any more. Simply venting about feeling suicidal - which is, by and large, what this forum has become - can be done on just about any other platform.
 
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Trjan

Member
Jan 22, 2020
41
I might get some flack for this but I think the admins are doing what they have to do to keep this site out of hot water so that members can still talk together, otherwise risk getting the entire site taken down, which I'm sure neither would want.
 
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Chinaski

Chinaski

Perchance to dream
Sep 1, 2018
1,816
My guess is people are frustrated with the censorship. Method information aside, it is the discussion that draws people in - after all, this is a forum and not an archive like lostallhope (yet). I took a break for that reason. Feeling like we cannot be open and candid about our innermost thoughts is more than disappointing. For many, this was all they had. I bounce between various online platforms and delete posts and accounts regularly, so I don't feel the nostalgia - or however it is called - that these people may. However, I can guess at the sense of betrayal and loss they probably feel. There is no online home for their socially unacceptable side any more. Simply venting about feeling suicidal - which is, by and large, what this forum has become - can be done on just about any other platform.
Yeah l get that, am just not sure it's such a big sacrifice to make for now given what the NYT did to the previous admin, and many of these posts seem to be taking a pop in a way which suggests someone from this site should be fighting the media *on their behalf* and it doesn't sit well. If people want to leave that's fair enough but it's hardly fair to take a swipe at the admins for being careful, after all it's the admin who get doxxed etc.
 
mandyjohnuk

mandyjohnuk

Student
Jul 6, 2021
171
I don't get this tbh, there have been a few posters leave for this reason with a message of thinly-veiled antagonism when the archives are still there and searchable, every single method question has been asked and answered several times already and is still visible, there is a forum for this discussion to continue but this is kept away from casual onlookers, seriously what is the problem?

(also why do people feel the need to do a big I AM LEAVING IN PROTEST post, ffs the admin were doxxed by a huge media outlet, get real imo)
They are not visible to see or even search. Why conform to the system of control. Leave well alone what was in place for all to see. Yes people have sadly passed away not because they were forced too. But because it was what they wanted. Now that has gone you will have many that will just leave. This forum has a lot to answer allowing false controling account holders to dictate and then ultimately change what didn't need to be changed.
 
Chinaski

Chinaski

Perchance to dream
Sep 1, 2018
1,816
This forum has a lot to answer allowing false controling account holders to dictate and then ultimately change what didn't need to be changed.
Fully disagree, this forum owes you nothing and it's unfair of you to imply cowardice on the part of the voluntary staff, who are the ones at greater risk of personal scrutiny and persecution, for making an understandable decision to manage the visibility of the forum's output while eyes are on us.
 
mandyjohnuk

mandyjohnuk

Student
Jul 6, 2021
171
Fully disagree, this forum owes you nothing and it's unfair of you to imply cowardice on the part of the voluntary staff, who are the ones at greater risk of personal scrutiny and persecution, for making an understandable decision to manage the visibility of the forum's output while eyes are on us.
I agree.
I'm owed nothing. But to fall to your knees and submit like a lamb is unthinkable. Root out those who sought to expose this once great forum. Who know you may be one of them I don't know seeing as you advocate change. Like I said before it's a change for the worst. It's not illegal to openly discuss suicide or even show the means.
 
Chinaski

Chinaski

Perchance to dream
Sep 1, 2018
1,816
I agree.
I'm owed nothing. But to fall to your knees and submit like a lamb is unthinkable. Root out those who sought to expose this once great forum.
Then go and do that, don't be angry at others for being reluctant to do it on your behalf.

Who know you may be one of them I don't know seeing as you advocate change.
If l was "one of them" I'd not be "advocating for change", I'd be demanding the entire contents remained in public view during this period of heightened scrutiny so everything could be easily read and logged by those who wish to shut us down, rather like you are now.
 
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