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GenesAndEnvironment said:
I don't trust my noose to close well enough, this would leave me in an air-choke for several minutes before passing out.
try it and see. you'll be long dead before you know what it is you are doing.
 
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You're wrong.
A lot of people don't want to die hanging from a noose, it has moments of panic, discomfort and pain from the rope.
(There has also been reports about vomiting from the rope, noose not closing well, leaving you without oxygen which will leave you retarded when you're being found)
Here are the stats btw:
HangingLethality 89.5%Time 7minAgony score 25.5
Also its not that easy to find a spot supporting the rope.
Oh, just go in a forest?
To get found by some stranger, maybe a child who is walking with his/her mom/dad and traumatize the child?
Sounds like you have morals.
Your post is just to make people feel bad.
Get that out of here, thanks.
 
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CTB is a decision I made with my logic, so I want to die. It's not me who refuses to die, it's the SI and fear of death that I can't control. The reason why people need methods such as N, SN, inert gas is to try to overcome their uncontrollable fears. Do not underestimate the SI resistance. You are lucky if you have an SI that you can handle very easily, but don't reject empathy.
 
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Because no anchor point, low consequences of failure, etc. Besides, internal hurdle is just as valid as external ones.
 
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I probably agree more with the title of your thread than the content within it. I don’t want to die, I kust don’t want to live in pain and all I really want is my life to be fixed and resemble something functional. People only really ctb because it’s the last option available. (It really should be the last option, as I do believe in exhausting every Avenue there is available whatever that may be)
shaveashaved said:
killing yourself is so easy. why do we make it look so complex? all you need is a rope. takes 13 seconds to lose consciousness and die in less than 10 minutes. all this sn, n, what not. it's just excuses.
If it were that simple would you or I be posting on here? I mean I could kill myself now, I’ve got some bleach in the bathroom. But I’m not insane enough to burn my guts out like a xenomorph has exploded on me.

we are all entitled to opinions here and I’m not trying to start an argument or be divisive but your comment will upset some people here.

there’s more to going ahead with a method than just doing it. Granted some can flick that switch but most have probably thought about reconsidering at least once.

anyway hope whatever happens you and I don’t have to die and we can fix our issues. :)
BeeLoyal said:
You're wrong.
A lot of people don't want to die hanging from a noose, it has moments of panic, discomfort and pain from the rope.
(There has also been reports about vomiting from the rope, noose not closing well, leaving you without oxygen which will leave you retarded when you're being found)
Here are the stats btw:
HangingLethality 89.5%Time 7minAgony score 25.5
Also its not that easy to find a spot supporting the rope.
Oh, just go in a forest?
To get found by some stranger, maybe a child who is walking with his/her mom/dad and traumatize the child?
Sounds like you have morals.
Your post is just to make people feel bad.
Get that out of here, thanks.
Exactly 100% right. There’s so many variables. It’s why I’m worried about it as my method if I can’t get a more easier method like n or sn
 
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DeadHorse said:
CTB is a decision I made with my logic, so I want to die. It's not me who refuses to die, it's the SI and fear of death that I can't control. The reason why people need methods such as N, SN, inert gas is to try to overcome their uncontrollable fears. Do not underestimate the SI resistance. You are lucky if you have an SI that you can handle very easily, but don't reject empathy.
once you jump out of that chair with the rope around your neck, si will no longer be an issue. if you can survive 20, 30, 40 years in misery, what's 13 seconds by comparison?
 
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shaveashaved said:
once you jump out of that chair with the rope around your neck, si will no longer be an issue. if you can survive 20, 30, 40 years in misery, what's 13 seconds by comparison?

Fear is something I can't control!!! Do you understand? CANNOT CONTROL. I can't jump, I can't kick chair, I can't shoot myself. Besides, who said I want to do it right now? Thanks to this forum, I already have a peaceful exit ticket. I chose to wait for a peaceful method and I have it.
 
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shaveashaved said:
once you jump out of that chair with the rope around your neck, si will no longer be an issue. if you can survive 20, 30, 40 years in misery, what's 13 seconds by comparison?

who’s says it’s a guaranteed 13 seconds?
what happens if the rope breaks just before you die and it leaves you a vegetable? Making sure it works and planning it out is just as daunting as living. It’s that no mans land of uncertainty.

but yes I do agree a few seconds of possible pain (to mins even in the context of hanging) vs years of pain is what I use to convince my SI that it will be worth it in the end. But some people have suffered physically and mentally all their life and just want their last moments to be peaceful. I think that’s understandable.

For me hanging as well doesn’t allow me to come to terms with my passing, to be able to listen to music and soak in the last of the sunshine (as I want to be outside by the sea) and I want to experience it in a blissful and non panicked state. Like what you see on the dignitas videos.
 
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I have a physical disability which means methods like hanging are physically impossible for me to do. SN may not be ideal, but for someone with impairments that make hands-on methods unmanageable, it honestly helps tremendously to have the means to take my life with minimal physical exertion or preparation.

Not everyone can manage methods that you consider superior, and people have various reasons for choosing an alternative method to hanging, from accessibility to reliability to level of peacefulness to wanting to minimise trauma inflicted on others. Those are valid concerns and desires, not excuses.

And you know what? After having my autonomy brutally and repeatedly taken away from me during years of abuse, I reserve the right to at least decide how I die. If others want to judge me for it, so be it. It is the one act of self-determination that is mine and only mine. In death, I am taking back the choices that were robbed from me in life.
 
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nobody wants to die because everybody are running away from the accident of the being born cause he dont want to remember that one day he came to existence and ahve to face the instinct pushing him to do the mouvement of existing , so he only wants to go back to the void to nothing and here he are fearfull of going back to the same circle of being born and facing it .
the circle of life and death it is the infinity that we are running from .
 
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I’ve been a member of SS since November of 2020 and I have seen a few posters that just want to get a rise out of us.
@shaveashaved seems to be one of them. Don’t feed the troll. Just ignore him.
 
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You should have made that scroll of truth meme, lmao, I'd do it but I'm too lazy.

In all honesty it's all about the lizard brain and SI, the technicalities are trivial - even a child can tie a knot - but controlling our strongest instinct seems impossibly hard. If it was easier and free will was actually a thing we'd have way more than a million suicides a year.
 
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newave3 said:
I’ve been a member of SS since November of 2020 and I have seen a few posters that just want to get a rise out of us.
@shaveashaved seems to be one of them. Don’t feed the troll. Just ignore him.

Posters like that have existed since the old subreddit.
For me, I dislike the full hanging method because it can traumatize people who may see my body. I prefer methods that I can lie down or at least sit down.
 
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Efilismislife

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I guess if one truely wants to die killing yourself is easy, just jump off from high place

But it all depends only on willingness&fear of death/pain:ohh:

Looking at the title,
I thought he got hated because hes a pro lifer who inhibit people from ctb..

But turns out hes not. Hes pro ctb but got hated :shy:
 
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Efilismislife said:
Hes pro ctb but got hated

And he can go back to 4Chan with that BS where he came from. We choose the methods that are best for US. In which we are comfortable with and less likely to mess up.

shaveashaved said:
to annoy you. why else?

 
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