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ouvreyes

ouvreyes

シシ
Oct 7, 2018
133
Should ctb be reserved for those that have no other options? This question is general, but personally, I acknowledge that I haven’t exhausted all avenues for recovery. My life isn’t that bad. As far as socioeconomic class and opportunity, I am extremely privileged, and I still have the majority of the estimated human lifespan in front of me to make use of it. Even if someone still has the time and capability to explore other options, do they deserve to ctb? (If it changes the meaning of the question, “deserve” can be exchanged with “should”). This is all in the context that they want to, obviously.
 
Maravillosa

Maravillosa

Mistress of all she surveys
Sep 7, 2018
638
It depends. Does that person have a spouse, dependent children, living parents? If one is alone in the world, I think that ctb would be more acceptable than if that person were married, a parent, and/or had living parents. But that is just my opinion.
 
Distanzmensch

Distanzmensch

Member
Oct 25, 2018
23
It depends. Does that person have a spouse, dependent children, living parents? If one is alone in the world, I think that ctb would be more acceptable than if that person were married, a parent, and/or had living parents. But that is just my opinion.
I think anyone should consider to be alive some time after birth, if they want to get children. Close people can get away with it, your leftovers won´t that easy.
 
worldexploder

worldexploder

-
Sep 19, 2018
2,823
Unless you asked to be born, CTB should be an absolute universal human right for anyone who wants it. We only got two options in life - catch the bus (controlled death) or let the bus run you over (natural/accidental death).
 
Maravillosa

Maravillosa

Mistress of all she surveys
Sep 7, 2018
638
Unless you asked to be born, CTB should be an absolute universal human right for anyone who wants it. We only got two options in life - catch the bus (controlled death) or let the bus run you over (natural/accidental death).

Well, there are New Age believers who do think that people choose the circumstances of their birth and the general outline of their future lives. I think that is ridiculous, but that is just my opinion.
 
Maravillosa

Maravillosa

Mistress of all she surveys
Sep 7, 2018
638
Just curious, but what’s the reasoning behind that belief?

I am not sure. I suppose it is the apparent unfairness of life that makes them think that the adverse circumstances were chosen before birth, in order to make their souls progress further than they might have otherwise done. I am not a New Age believer, so it is hard for me to comprehend.
 
S

Schopenhauer

Enlightened
Oct 3, 2018
1,136
Suicide should be a fundamental right. Who would decide whether you "earned" death? A therapist? A government panel? Only the individual can make this choice.

And fuck the guys who believe I chose this life before birth, in a spiritual dimension. Nobody could be that dumb.
 
Lra888

Lra888

Enlightened
Sep 30, 2018
1,142
Well, there are New Age believers who do think that people choose the circumstances of their birth and the general outline of their future lives. I think that is ridiculous, but that is just my opinion.
It always seems to be super happy healthy people congratulating themselves for their comfortable lives. It’s very insulting to those who have lives of suffering - like they put themselves in that situation and they deserve it.
 
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polyswarm

Member
Sep 8, 2018
66
The only shit life has thrown my way is what I can't handle, but disguised as stuff that I can. I call bullshit on that retarded proposition.

I hope you realized that I wasn't agreeing with that statement, I'm very much on your side in regards to that.
 
Wolfjob_dayjob

Wolfjob_dayjob

Student
Oct 19, 2018
190
Why should someone care their parents will survive them?? Parents have offspring WANTING to die before the progeny (thereby subjecting them to witnessing their death) AND with the known possibility of the "worst outcome" (burying their own children). They had all the power provided they have birth control or are of privelege to have the safety, option or knowledge not to birth. Children are allowed to decide even it hurts their makers is what I'm saying.
 
Wolfjob_dayjob

Wolfjob_dayjob

Student
Oct 19, 2018
190
Life can be frustrating and chaotic and unfair, sounds like another way to believe in a just world, karma or comeuppance or reward outside of life as we know it. To try to absolve the uncertainty and guilt? :<
Well, there are New Age believers who do think that people choose the circumstances of their birth and the general outline of their future lives. I think that is ridiculous, but that is just my opinion.
 
RM5998

RM5998

Sack of Meat
Sep 3, 2018
2,206
I hope you realized that I wasn't agreeing with that statement, I'm very much on your side in regards to that.

Yeah, of course I do. I just wanted to say "I call bullshit on"+dumb_shit. I wonder how people can say stuff like that with a straight face. It's just like bullshitting on a resume, except with a lack of self-awareness.
 
BaconCheeseburger

BaconCheeseburger

Comfort-eating
Aug 4, 2018
689
CTB should be open to everyone, but there was definitely someone in my life who 'earned' the right to CTB. She had (what sounded like) the worst upbringing from start to finish, and at the end of her life she was making attempts regularly each week. It was sad when she passed, but a relief that she'd finally got there.
 
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Threads

Warlock
Jul 13, 2018
724
Suicide is a human right. It is inhumane and cruel to not allow people do to that. Does that mean people should be able to freely walk into a clinic and be given medicine to kill themselves? No.

They should be able to order it from home.

If you don't agree, you should be physically accosted until you do.

Period.