SofterSoftest

SofterSoftest

Student
Dec 30, 2021
160
Many apologies in advance, because I don't want to get anyone's hopes up.

In May, I tried to order from D and had a terrible experience (without going into great detail, I had my product seized and also drew a great deal of unwanted attention to myself). To be clear, D was not at all to blame - I genuinely think LE has started putting too many pieces together. Since then, I've just been so desperate to get N in some other way, even though I know that there are no other verified sources.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever come across a Canadian clearnet website that seems to advertise N. What sets it apart is that it has pictures of N bottles that are set against hard copy posters containing their company logo, and the bottles themselves genuinely look like the ones that the most recent pharmaceutical manufacturer phased out in the 1990s. The company says that their capsules are "at least 21 years old" and, although it appears their website has been up since 2020, they are not yet listed on the PPH scam database. If this description sounds similar to something you have come across yourself (initials of the company are POP), please let me know - I'm not prepared to buy from them at this point, but if anyone has had success, I may consider.

Again, sorry sorry sorry if this is not appropriate to post about. I'm just really desperate to somehow get my hands on N. I'm terrified of using my SN.
 
SofterSoftest

SofterSoftest

Student
Dec 30, 2021
160
What terrifies you about SN?
A few things. The first is that there's no precise way to test it (even aquarium tests aren't precise beyond rough colour-matching), whereas I have the resources to get N tested if I want to. The second is that there are accounts of people having fairly significant discomfort for ~30-40 minutes before going unconscious, and that's a very long time. I genuinely worry about my SI kicking in and calling for help. To make matters worse, I do have chronic GI issues, which means I would in all likelihood struggle with this method, even though it still feels more appealing to me than, say, hanging. Finally, despite this not being a very popular opinion on this forum, there is actually plenty of peer-reviewed science on the effects of SN on mice, whose bodies are in many cases used as proxies for the study of human biology. The most alarming impacts of SN are that it can induce kidney failure and damage, which would in many cases be asymptomatic at first, and that it is highly carcinogenic (again, not something you'd know/experience right away). While it is true that there isn't much support for SN causing brain damage, this doesn't at all make it a benign method.
 
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Seeking_Peace

Arcanist
May 18, 2022
478
Can you combine a strong sleep aid with SN? N doesn't taste well neither and retention can also be affected by your GI issues as well. I don't want you to get scammed out of desperation because people will take advantage of you. I know N is the holy grail but it is still a poison your body may reject. Just food for thought.
 
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SofterSoftest

Student
Dec 30, 2021
160
Can you combine a strong sleep aid with SN? N doesn't taste well neither and retention can also be affected by your GI issues as well. I don't want you to get scammed out of desperation because people will take advantage of you. I know N is the holy grail but it is still a poison your body may reject. Just food for thought.
Thank you - yeah, I think I'm still heartbroken from the experience because I was so looking forward to N. I think I may be romanticizing/idealizing this as a method. Maybe knocking myself out right after taking the SN somehow would allow me to bypass the discomfort associated with this method.
 
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Seeking_Peace

Arcanist
May 18, 2022
478
Thank you - yeah, I think I'm still heartbroken from the experience because I was so looking forward to N. I think I may be romanticizing/idealizing this as a method. Maybe knocking myself out right after taking the SN somehow would allow me to bypass the discomfort associated with this method.
I'd try to get the strongest sleep aid possible. I'm planning my SN with a sleep aid and at least 1-2 day sleep deprivation so I'll be KNOCKED out once I take the SN. I in no way want to be alert for the stages.
 
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SofterSoftest

Student
Dec 30, 2021
160
You’re Canadian and had issues?
Yes, pretty major ones, but luckily I didn't suffer any actual legal penalties. LE came to my door and they were certainly not very discreet about it, so my SO and even some neighbours got involved in the drama. It was awful.
 
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hockeymum9999

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Sep 16, 2021
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Yes, pretty major ones, but luckily I didn't suffer any actual legal penalties. LE came to my door and they were certainly not very discreet about it, so my SO and even some neighbours got involved in the drama. It was awful.
That must have been a horrible experience. I am in Canada too and worried about ordering stuff online to ctb and having it intercepted. I didn't even take into account having someone show up at my door and having my SO or my kids finding out.

What's your plan now?

Are you on the west coast, east coast or central, if you don't mind me asking? I am curious if I may have the same troubles as you have had if I try it.
 
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SofterSoftest

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Dec 30, 2021
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That must have been a horrible experience. I am in Canada too and worried about ordering stuff online to ctb and having it intercepted. I didn't even take into account having someone show up at my door and having my SO or my kids finding out.

What's your plan now?

Are you on the west coast, east coast or central, if you don't mind me asking? I am curious if I may have the same troubles as you have had if I try it.
Thanks, yes it was just terrible. I think importing N from D is a great idea if you are fully prepared to get a visit from LE and have a plan on how to handle the situation. Although I'm not aware of anyone who has ever been sent to prison for importing N, I also think the fact that I got a (previously unprecedented) visit from LE means that the landscape may change at some point in the future, so I think it is important to really reflect on all possibilities and be okay with them before moving ahead.

My plan is SN at this point, which has many drawbacks but is as close as you can get to N.

I'm sorry, I don't feel comfortable sharing exactly where I am in Canada, but it is a city with lots of customs traffic (i.e., it was not a case of rural LE finding something unusual on a slow day).
 
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hockeymum9999

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Sep 16, 2021
15
Thanks, yes it was just terrible. I think importing N from D is a great idea if you are fully prepared to get a visit from LE and have a plan on how to handle the situation. Although I'm not aware of anyone who has ever been sent to prison for importing N, I also think the fact that I got a (previously unprecedented) visit from LE means that the landscape may change at some point in the future, so I think it is important to really reflect on all possibilities and be okay with them before moving ahead.

My plan is SN at this point, which has many drawbacks but is as close as you can get to N.

I'm sorry, I don't feel comfortable sharing exactly where I am in Canada, but it is a city with lots of customs traffic (i.e., it was not a case of rural LE finding something unusual on a slow day).
No worries.

I am on the east coast where I don't think it would be as risky getting caught. However, given how many failures I have had, I am sure that I would be caught.

My plan for ctb is with amitriptyline. I have stock piled about 5 g of it but need to do some more research about what else I can use and what is accessible.
 
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outrider567

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Apr 5, 2022
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Yes, pretty major ones, but luckily I didn't suffer any actual legal penalties. LE came to my door and they were certainly not very discreet about it, so my SO and even some neighbours got involved in the drama. It was awful.
Wow, that sounds bad--sorry to hear that
 
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Judy Garland

HoHum
Mar 23, 2022
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A few things. The first is that there's no precise way to test it (even aquarium tests aren't precise beyond rough colour-matching), whereas I have the resources to get N tested if I want to. The second is that there are accounts of people having fairly significant discomfort for ~30-40 minutes before going unconscious, and that's a very long time. I genuinely worry about my SI kicking in and calling for help. To make matters worse, I do have chronic GI issues, which means I would in all likelihood struggle with this method, even though it still feels more appealing to me than, say, hanging. Finally, despite this not being a very popular opinion on this forum, there is actually plenty of peer-reviewed science on the effects of SN on mice, whose bodies are in many cases used as proxies for the study of human biology. The most alarming impacts of SN are that it can induce kidney failure and damage, which would in many cases be asymptomatic at first, and that it is highly carcinogenic (again, not something you'd know/experience right away). While it is true that there isn't much support for SN causing brain damage, this doesn't at all make it a benign method.
The kidney failure and highly carcinogenic aspects are a plus for me if it fails to kill me itself. If it fails, perhaps it will pave another avenue to die. (Though Cancer and kidney failure are not pleasant).
 
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SofterSoftest

Student
Dec 30, 2021
160
The kidney failure and highly carcinogenic aspects are a plus for me if it fails to kill me itself. If it fails, perhaps it will pave another avenue to die. (Though Cancer and kidney failure are not pleasant).
SN being a carcinogenic is a plus for me too, but I have seen lots of people live with kidney failure for decades - especially if you are in your 20s-40s, often it starts off being completely asymptomatic, becomes symptomatic over months, and then can take years to kill you unless you specifically get curative or life-prolonging treatment. With cancer, you can refuse curative treatment, but there are plenty of options for pain/symptom management beyond those that target the tumors themselves. But yeah, I hear you. Not sure I have access to a method that is better than SN tbh, so I guess my hope is for it to work the first time.
 
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locked*n*loaded

Enlightened
Apr 15, 2022
1,706
Many apologies in advance, because I don't want to get anyone's hopes up.

In May, I tried to order from D and had a terrible experience (without going into great detail, I had my product seized and also drew a great deal of unwanted attention to myself). To be clear, D was not at all to blame - I genuinely think LE has started putting too many pieces together. Since then, I've just been so desperate to get N in some other way, even though I know that there are no other verified sources.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever come across a Canadian clearnet website that seems to advertise N. What sets it apart is that it has pictures of N bottles that are set against hard copy posters containing their company logo, and the bottles themselves genuinely look like the ones that the most recent pharmaceutical manufacturer phased out in the 1990s. The company says that their capsules are "at least 21 years old" and, although it appears their website has been up since 2020, they are not yet listed on the PPH scam database. If this description sounds similar to something you have come across yourself (initials of the company are POP), please let me know - I'm not prepared to buy from them at this point, but if anyone has had success, I may consider.

Again, sorry sorry sorry if this is not appropriate to post about. I'm just really desperate to somehow get my hands on N. I'm terrified of using my SN.
I found the site you to which you "infer" in your posting. I'm not sure what to make of it, to be honest. One thing I did notice, though, when reading through one of the pages on the site, is this line: "When you take Nembutal in high dosages, you risk passing out and buying." Obviously, because of rules here, I can't post a link to the page where this line is. And, obviously, the word "buying" was meant to be the word "dying". I've always heard that fake online sites are known to have frequent misspellings of words and lots of grammatical errors. These are a couple of the ways that "they" tell us how to distinguish scam and fraudulent sites from legit ones. So, I don't know if this is just an innocent error or what. It does sound too good to be true, doesn't it? It sure would be nice if it were a legit source. If legit, they're expensive. 200ml of N oral solution +antiemetic costs more than $1700 US. I didn't price all the other N substances. If someone does try to obtain N through this website, please report back your experience.


Edit: Here's another grammatical error I found right on the "about us" page: The global search for top quality barbiturates grows year on. The products we supply are really rare to find as it the use cases are typically for specialists


I could find no discussion on Reddit about this website. It's not listed with TrustPilot, which doesn't surprise me. It's not certified by Mcafee Secure, which also doesn't surprise me. The website is ranked #0 among millions of other websites according to Alexa traffic rank because of no traffic, which really makes sense if you think about it. The domain name was created 3 years ago, which really means nothing. It hasn't been blocklisted by Badbitcoin, DNS-DH, GoogleSafeBrowsing, Spam404, SpamhausDBL, SURBL, Threatlog, URLVir, all of which only tells you if the site is malicious in nature. I can find NOTHING on the web regarding this website in question, no discussions, no mentions, nothing.

Here's another thing: The Twitter, Facebook, Linkedin, Vimeo, Skype, Youtube, Flickr, and Pinterest links, when clicked, go nowhere. Actually, the Twiiter and Facebook links takes you to pages of postings by something called "Muffin Group", a self-described "Internet Company", who seems to be involved in building webpages and templates for Wordpress, nothing to do with the website or subject in question.
 
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Advisor321

Student
Jun 3, 2022
118
Also it is worth reading this thread:


Also potential scam, but OP writes that he actually received N from this site, but had to make two payments
 
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locked*n*loaded

Enlightened
Apr 15, 2022
1,706
Also it is worth reading this thread:


Also potential scam, but OP writes that he actually received N from this site, but had to make two payments
I've read this posting previously. I'd be hesitant to trust any site promoted by someone with only 2 postings.
 
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Hercules

Specialist
Jan 31, 2021
336
It is most likely a scam. The wording in the ad is very odd. The phrase where they “guarantee that their capsules are at least 21 years old “ is a very strange thing to say. Why would they need to say that if the pills were the real thing? The other line warning that , “ When you take N taken in high doses, you risk passing out and dying”, also seems like a strange and stupid thing to put in an ad ( even if it is true). It doesnt sound genuine. These sound like things that a scammer would say. It sounds like they are trying too hard to convince people that their product is genuine. They could have just found a few old empty bottles somewhere.
 
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Sun n showers

Student
Jul 4, 2022
170
Many apologies in advance, because I don't want to get anyone's hopes up.

In May, I tried to order from D and had a terrible experience (without going into great detail, I had my product seized and also drew a great deal of unwanted attention to myself). To be clear, D was not at all to blame - I genuinely think LE has started putting too many pieces together. Since then, I've just been so desperate to get N in some other way, even though I know that there are no other verified sources.

I'm wondering if anyone has ever come across a Canadian clearnet website that seems to advertise N. What sets it apart is that it has pictures of N bottles that are set against hard copy posters containing their company logo, and the bottles themselves genuinely look like the ones that the most recent pharmaceutical manufacturer phased out in the 1990s. The company says that their capsules are "at least 21 years old" and, although it appears their website has been up since 2020, they are not yet listed on the PPH scam database. If this description sounds similar to something you have come across yourself (initials of the company are POP), please let me know - I'm not prepared to buy from them at this point, but if anyone has had success, I may consider.

Again, sorry sorry sorry if this is not appropriate to post about. I'm just really desperate to somehow get my hands on N. I'm terrified of using my SN.
Im desperate too in uk, did you get any luck?
 
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SofterSoftest

Student
Dec 30, 2021
160
Im desperate too in uk, did you get any luck?
I sent an e-mail to the site owner and asked them to take a picture of their products with the handwritten caption "July 2022" on it, and they couldn't do it. I'm afraid this is a confirmed scam, so it's not right for me to share the source, even for curiosity/interest.
 
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Sun n showers

Student
Jul 4, 2022
170
I sent an e-mail to the site owner and asked them to take a picture of their products with the handwritten caption "July 2022" on it, and they couldn't do it. I'm afraid this is a confirmed scam, so it's not right for me to share the source, even for curiosity/interest.
OK thanks
 
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TopsyTurvy

Member
May 16, 2022
20
After reading this post I just did a web search with the one word 'N' for the hell it. I know these all have to be scams. However I couldn't believe the bewildering number of them. Dozen after dozen. I can understand how easily desperate people can be scammed. The sites to the uninitiated look plausible. The few that I actually did read had the odd spelling mistake or slightly strange grammar (e.g. 'amassed a weight of experience', 'feel comfortable width my healthy'). Some even have a 'Chat Line'. And of course there are so many easy ways to pay. Bloody Leeches!
 
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