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wljourney

wljourney

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Dunno what either "SN" or its retailer "IC" stand for but this gentleman from Montreal/Quebec/Canada (who, mind you, has the minimum amount of posts needed for PM) would surely appreciate some information.

I also wouldn't mind learning what the "pph" is. I assume it's some sort of PDF/guide?

EDIT: Just downloaded the PPH. Now just need more information on the SN and the IC (god I hate abbreviations), pretty please. I'll even PayPal somebody to offer a legit source, if the price is right.
Please don't pay people for information. Offering that will only attract scammers who then will use your personal information (especially if you use PayPal that is connected to your "normal" email address) to try and extract more money.

There are many fellow SaSu users around here who will be happy to help guide you in the right direction. Without asking for payment or favours.
 
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mmikkee1

Student
Aug 4, 2022
156
Please don't pay people for information. Offering that will only attract scammers who then will use your personal information (especially if you use PayPal that is connected to your "normal" email address) to try and extract more money.

There are many fellow SaSu users around here who will be happy to help guide you in the right direction. Without asking for payment or favours.
is domperidone good instead of meto?
 
Hollowillow

Hollowillow

I want throat hugs & anime! Can't use chat pm me
Aug 7, 2022
1,518
Oh I thought it was more water less sodium nitrite
Yes more water than sn...?

I have this screen capture.
Dunno what either "SN" or its retailer "IC" stand for but this gentleman from Montreal/Quebec/Canada (who, mind you, has the minimum amount of posts needed for PM) would surely appreciate some information.

I also wouldn't mind learning what the "pph" is. I assume it's some sort of PDF/guide?

EDIT: Just downloaded the PPH. Now just need more information on the SN and the IC (god I hate abbreviations), pretty please. I'll even PayPal somebody to offer a legit source, if the price is right.
Are you near montreal too?

Pm me I'm an open book and have links.

For free but if a promise of money was a scam... *Gazes suspuciously* I'd be very dissapointed in you. I'm a living corpse. Money doesn't matter. ๐Ÿคฃ
 

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wljourney

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is domperidone good instead of meto?
yes afaik i'ts listed as appropriate alternative for meto in the PPeH as well as Stan's Guide.

 
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Popcornmew

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Aug 31, 2022
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I dont know If I understood on Stan's Guide, but antiemetics are not needed If I have regular use of risperidon and other psych medications? Is that It? ๐Ÿค”
I also wonder the same.
I take paliperidone, but it certainly cant be as effective as meto...i think..
Not to mention i throw up all the time even taking paliperidone... idk
Maybe someone can help us
 
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I dont know If I understood on Stan's Guide, but antiemetics are not needed If I have regular use of risperidon and other psych medications? Is that It? ๐Ÿค”
Yes afaik that's correct.
There are also a few medications that increase the risk of side effects if taken with metoclopramide. For example quetiapine. So it's best to take only one of them, not both.
 
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tabarรด

Member
Oct 3, 2022
6
Yes afaik that's correct.
There are also a few medications that increase the risk of side effects if taken with metoclopramide. For example quetiapine. So it's best to take only one of them, not both.
Thx for helping.
I also wonder the same.
I take paliperidone, but it certainly cant be as effective as meto...i think..
Not to mention i throw up all the time even taking paliperidone... idk
Maybe someone can help us
I found some infos about that here too:
 
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Popcornmew

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Aug 31, 2022
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Thx for helping.

I found some infos about that here too:
Thank you i will look into it!
 
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Hello_Goodbye_2022

Member
Sep 27, 2022
18
Would someone please be able to PM me a way to find AE? Many thanks!
 
gomenasai

gomenasai

Student
Sep 30, 2022
160
Hello,

does anyone know where to get SN? I am from Europe and disabled and in a great amount of pain. Please, PM me
 
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Enlightened
Aug 14, 2022
1,178
Hello,

does anyone know where to get SN? I am from Europe and disabled and in a great amount of pain. Please, PM me
you can also make a regular thread alsoi
 
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klonoaencore

Member
Oct 4, 2022
20
Is metoclopramide 4mg enough? Coincidentally my father bought it yesterday for my mother.
 
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almostdone

Member
Oct 5, 2022
11
Ordered SN from a chemical company, should be here in a couple days. The company is legit as far as I can tell, but looking back the picture on the website looks kinda jank. I'll try a blood test when it gets here I guess.
 
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Zerengin96

Student
Jun 14, 2022
126
Ordered SN from a chemical company, should be here in a couple days. The company is legit as far as I can tell, but looking back the picture on the website looks kinda jank. I'll try a blood test when it gets here I guess.
can you give the source in pm please?
Can anyone send me a pm with a working SN source within the EU?
 
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Hollowillow

Hollowillow

I want throat hugs & anime! Can't use chat pm me
Aug 7, 2022
1,518
can you give the source in pm please?
Me Too in they ship from canada, 99% nitrite not nitrate? I don't want to pay 111$ us = 160$ canadian for IC... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

I'm sad, I can't even read the name of the drugs, my brains damage nopes out... It's too hard for me... If I ever get the first step of getting SN, I'll need someone to help me step by step...

I'm in pain right now... Or more aware of it... I wish I never woke up...
 
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almostdone

Member
Oct 5, 2022
11
Ordered SN from a chemical company, should be here in a couple days. The company is legit as far as I can tell, but looking back the picture on the website looks kinda jank. I'll try a blood test when it gets here I guess.
It arrived and it's real. Just tested it with a drop of blood and it instantly turned brown. The bottle in real life looks much more professional than the picture on their website. Looks like they only deliver to the US but it was only $20 and I'm still surprised how easy it was. I've had attempts in the past but they were always pretty unlikely to succeed because the pro-lifers make it so hard. I'm not going to use it just yet, but it's nice to know I have the option available now.
 
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Enlightened
Aug 14, 2022
1,178
give ya a hint... google "fish cure sodium nitrite*
 
CarpeJugulum

CarpeJugulum

GNU Pterry
Jun 28, 2022
32
It arrived and it's real. Just tested it with a drop of blood and it instantly turned brown. The bottle in real life looks much more professional than the picture on their website. Looks like they only deliver to the US but it was only $20 and I'm still surprised how easy it was. I've had attempts in the past but they were always pretty unlikely to succeed because the pro-lifers make it so hard. I'm not going to use it just yet, but it's nice to know I have the option available now.
can you describe the testing process please? did you just put a drop of blood on a grain of salt or?
 
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almostdone

Member
Oct 5, 2022
11
can you describe the testing process please? did you just put a drop of blood on a grain of salt or?
Yeah, I just put a tiny bit on a paper plate and put a drop of blood on it. I also put one tiny grain on my tongue and it was salty, then I spit it out and rinsed out my mouth, but that was really dumb of me and not something people should do. It really only takes a tiny pinch of the stuff to kill you and I spent the next 2 hours constantly checking to make sure my lips weren't turning blue.
 
CarpeJugulum

CarpeJugulum

GNU Pterry
Jun 28, 2022
32
Yeah, I just put a tiny bit on a paper plate and put a drop of blood on it. I also put one tiny grain on my tongue and it was salty, then I spit it out and rinsed out my mouth, but that was really dumb of me and not something people should do. It really only takes a tiny pinch of the stuff to kill you and I spent the next 2 hours constantly checking to make sure my lips weren't turning blue.
sorry, but I'm 90% sure that the 'tiny pinch' thing you said is incorrect. I mean SN is used for food processing...
 
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Angi

Experienced
Jan 4, 2022
282
sorry, but I'm 90% sure that the 'tiny pinch' thing you said is incorrect. I mean SN is used for food processing...
I think you two are using different definitions of "pinch". Minimal lethal dose for humans is supposed to be 2g. (As always in life, no guarantee you will survive less than 2g. Don't get me wrong.)

Check out this thread:

Also, awesome user name! Why didn't I think of this?
 
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almostdone

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Oct 5, 2022
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sorry, but I'm 90% sure that the 'tiny pinch' thing you said is incorrect. I mean SN is used for food processing...
Lethal dose is 1-2 grams, and a teaspoon is about 6 grams of salt. So yeah tiny pinch is probably the wrong way to say it, more of a hefty pinch, but life is random and someone with a smaller frame or who is already ill might accidentally ctb with a much smaller dose than the average.
 
CarpeJugulum

CarpeJugulum

GNU Pterry
Jun 28, 2022
32
I think you two are using different definitions of "pinch". Minimal lethal dose for humans is supposed to be 2g.

Check out this thread:

Also, awesome user name! Why didn't I think of this?
yeah, I was mostly thinking about a small amount that's not even swallowed
Thanks for the thread, it's nice to see some thourough data
 
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Aug 14, 2022
1,178
I think you two are using different definitions of "pinch". Minimal lethal dose for humans is supposed to be 2g.

Check out this thread:

Also, awesome user name! Why didn't I think of this?
Yeah but there have been people who have died from a gram.
 
wljourney

wljourney

Waiting for the bus
Apr 2, 2022
1,370
Link don't work.

Link don't work.
Yes, they moved the documents to a different server.

You can find quite a few publications on SN on their new site.

"Fatal methemoglobinemia: A case series highlighting a new trend in intentional sodium nitrite or sodium nitrate ingestion as a method of suicide" (September 2021) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34298207/


Ok. I found this article in the Journal of Emergency Medicine "Sodium Nitrite Ingestion: an Emerging Trend in Suicide Attempts Shared via Online Communities" March 2021, but it's behind a paywall and I can't successfully link to it.

However - they did publish a table with vital signs of 5 patients who came to the ER with SN poisoning:

Patient 1
17 yr old female, arrived at hospital without heartbeat (HB)/blood pressure at 0, Oxygen Saturation at 79%, Peak Methoglobin level 84, Meth Blue administered once, deceased.

Patient 2
35 yr old male, arrived with regular HB, low blood pressure, Oxygen Sat at 80%, Peak Methoglobin level 80, Meth Blue given 2x, deceased.

Patient 3
17 yr old female, ingested 21 g of SN, arrived with rapid HB, regular blood pressure, Oxygen Sat at 84%, Peak Methoglobin over 24, Meth Blue given once, survived.

Patient 4
24 yr old male, arrived with rapid HB, regular blood pressure, Oxygen Sat at 87%, Peak Methoglobin at 69, Meth Blue given 2x, survived.

Patient 5
22 yr old male, slightly elevated HB, very low blood pressure, Oxygen Sat at 80%, Peak Methoglobin (not measured until after Meth Blue was given). They administered meth blue 4 (!) times and he still passed away.

Found a few snippets (more details on each patient and how they presented to the ER) published here:

The people who survived received Methylene Blue early enough.
Those who passed away had cardiac arrests before Meth Blue could be administered (sometimes with significant delay).

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July 2022:
Both cases reported here survived (one took about 10g, one less than 1 g), as they both presented to ER within a short timeframe:
"Suicide attempt using sodium nitrite ordered on the internet: Two case reports"


June 2021:
One case reported, 37 yr old female, deceased. Unfortunately behind a paywall, but description says "found in bed with water bottle containing SN and a plastic bag with several medications and a suicide note"
"Another suicide by sodium nitrite and multiple drugs: an alarming trend for "exit"?"

 
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help56

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Oct 4, 2022
100
I got myself meto and live in UK but can't get any sn anywhere is there anyone from the UK who could advise me on a supplier or anything at all?
Sane here . Did you get any responses . Uk