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samhelloall9

Experienced
Jul 16, 2018
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I'm just not sure how i missed the increase in numbers. It could just be i live a sheltered existence, and also live in an isolated part of the world on a floating continent (Australia), but how come I didn't notice the rise in vegans up until say two years ago 2016?

It seems like, and don't be hasty judging me here, it seems like people usually were once meat eaters who converted, and for various reasons.

I can't help but wonder a controversial thought, what the percentage of vegans who are women, turned to being vegan from being a meat eater....over body issues perhaps? Again, controversial opinion, but please be kind.

I just don't know how I missed the rise of vegans. I mean vegetarians is one thing, but even then, to me they've always been few and far where I'm from or at least in my area I've lived my whole life, locally speaking.

Yeah.
 
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samhelloall9

Experienced
Jul 16, 2018
297
I didn't even know vegan was a word or a thing either, like any trend or buzzword, up until yeah about two or three years ago. it completely passed me by.
 
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Sayo

Not 2B
Aug 22, 2018
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Depends where you live and how connected to it you are. I am also in Australia but I don't think there has been an increase outside of some cities. Part of it is just media coverage (because veganism is an easy debate goto and usually tagged in with any culture debate, see hippies), part of it probably environmental concern and some of the meat industry scandals we've had in the last decade. I don't know if the people who do it for health reasons have grown in number or not, as the vegans I know do it for animal rights reasons and see anything else as a potential byproduct.

I also suspect you are right about some people doing it out of body image issues, but committed veganism is very hard.

If I were more interested in living I'd like to phase out animal products out of my diet just because of general repulsion by them personally.
 
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samhelloall9

Experienced
Jul 16, 2018
297
Depends where you live and how connected to it you are. I am also in Australia but I don't think there has been an increase outside of some cities. Part of it is just media coverage (because veganism is an easy debate goto and usually tagged in with any culture debate, see hippies), part of it probably environmental concern and some of the meat industry scandals we've had in the last decade. I don't know if the people who do it for health reasons have grown in number or not, as the vegans I know do it for animal rights reasons and see anything else as a potential byproduct.

I also suspect you are right about some people doing it out of body image issues, but committed veganism is very hard.

If I were more interested in living I'd like to phase out animal products out of my diet just because of general repulsion by them personally.
when you say committed veganism is hard...i've noticed in particular a few (not generalising) seemed to convert to veganism around the age of i think 10 or so. that being said...are you sort of saying that some, if not most....don't stick with veganism ultimately? not from a lack of trying sure...otherwise feel free to discuss in a pm and or other things too. always happy to chat to a fellow aussie.
 
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samhelloall9

Experienced
Jul 16, 2018
297
hmm
I was vegan for 2 years and want to be vegan again. I don't wish to cause unnecessary harm to animals and it's better for the environment, as well as other reasons.
would you agree it is hard to maintain due to stigma and lack of mainstream acceptance (e.g. if only everyone in the world was vegan) or is it just because it's hard to get used to if you grew up for a time on meat, or etc etc? just trying to get an idea or my head around the motivations but also the reasons people just...go back.
 
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Lizzie S.

Experienced
Sep 2, 2018
258
Definitely I went back because of stigma and lack of mainstream acceptance. I was in mental hospitals, and now I'm living at my mom's house who doesn't really cater to my food preferences so that's why I'm not vegan now. Definitely plan to be in the future.
 
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406metallicblue

Student
Sep 7, 2018
180
Veganism is hard work, it's for me a question of relating what you eat to the experience that the thing you eat had before you ate it. If someone gives me some road kill i'll eat it, but normally these things have led a very poor existence bordering on torture somewhere, be it eggs, milk or meat. Fish is my weakness, despite all the heavy metals and feeling that it's still highly unpleasant being hauled out of the sea to suffocate. But at least their lives previous to that were fairly natural and expressive of their idiom as fish.
 
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Gengogakusha

Crazy Cat Lady
Sep 5, 2018
28
I can't help but wonder a controversial thought, what the percentage of vegans who are women, turned to being vegan from being a meat eater....over body issues perhaps? Again, controversial opinion, but please be kind.

I am bulimic and was vegan for about a year. I do care about the ethics and the environment behind it but I would be lying if I said my eating disorder didn't play a part in the decision.
 
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Smilla

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Apr 30, 2018
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Went off topic haha um I noticed the rise of it during 2015/2016 because a lot of studies and research came out at that time. Then it also became very active on youtube. How I found out about it myself was because of YouTube.


I’m ashamed that I haven’t gone vegan, and I totally agree with your YouTube observation.


I watched a video about factory farming and was horrified.
 
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406blue

Specialist
Sep 7, 2018
379
It ought to be part of school curriculum to take all children to an abbatoir and also a lung cancer ward.
 
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SomeGuyDK

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Sep 17, 2018
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I'm just not sure how i missed the increase in numbers. It could just be i live a sheltered existence, and also live in an isolated part of the world on a floating continent (Australia), but how come I didn't notice the rise in vegans up until say two years ago 2016?

It seems like, and don't be hasty judging me here, it seems like people usually were once meat eaters who converted, and for various reasons.

I can't help but wonder a controversial thought, what the percentage of vegans who are women, turned to being vegan from being a meat eater....over body issues perhaps? Again, controversial opinion, but please be kind.

I just don't know how I missed the rise of vegans. I mean vegetarians is one thing, but even then, to me they've always been few and far where I'm from or at least in my area I've lived my whole life, locally speaking.

Yeah.
Over body issues, what do you mean? You mean they think they will lose weight by turning vegan? Never heard of that.
The animal farming industry is quite cruel most places and eating meat creates a demand to create more sentient beings who endure these almost torture like conditions at least in factory farms (Look up factory farms on Youtube if in doubt). Not like nature is much better though with R-selection, diseases, animals getting eaten alive, starvation, dehydration. But most vegans and 99,9 % if the population won't agree with me here. This world is fucking awfully designed :(
 
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Over n' Out

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Aug 5, 2018
196
Cabbages and lettuces scream like hell as they are pulled out the ground to satisfy those smug vegans and vegetarians. Just because they scream at a sound frequency that humans can't hear it makes it convenient to pretend it's not happening.
I only eat goat and rabbit and dolphin.
 
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406blue

Specialist
Sep 7, 2018
379
The problems with human eating habits are manifold in western society. We believe that as the master race we have the right to do as we wish with other sentient beings, be it cabbages or people.,since we like to believe that we have ultimate power over them. Some cultures are much more clued up about the karma this involves, but they are rapidly being converted or else annihilated. The idea of the sanctity of life for all living things has been completely lost on us. Of course, other cultures need to eat but abstain from certain things on religious grounds or at least pay their respects to the life they are about to take, as opposed to thoughtlessly filling their shopping baskets with chemical infused inert masses of various junk. I generalise and there are people who think seriously about such things here, but the majority are sheep who follow the herd. I agree that in other cultures they follow a religious herd nonetheless but at least it's a herd with a few principles. People will eat anything in order to survive, including each other if necessary. But when one has a choice in the matter and isn't starving to death, it seems strange to eat something that has been through the process we know as factory farming when so many other options are available. Veganism is on the rise and long may it continue.