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thefoodispoison

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It seems like a lot of celebrity suicides are from partial. Why would they not use N, the gold standard? They would definitely be able to afford any of the costs associated, whether ordering from D or traveling to Mexico or Peru. Wear a hat and glasses or something to lightly disguise their appearance when they go to the farmacia.
 
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Smart No More

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May 5, 2021
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Well they'd be taking a massivw publicity risk going to buy it in person. I do wonder why they don't find their way to D or whatever though. Its probably just hard to be away from prying eyes etc. It's one thing getting drugs but getting drugs to ctb is a going to raise eyebrows and they're so used to having assistance with things it's a different world for them. Somebody is always likely to catch wind of what they're soing and attempt to stwp in and help which is that last thing anybody with intentions to ctb wants let alone a celeb that might find themselves answering to the worlds press.
 
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May 5, 2021
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Before barbiturates became obsolete there were a number of celeb deaths attributed to it. Marilyn Monroe, Hendrix, etc. If it were still in circulation it would most certainly be many more. Michael Jacksons death also brings to light the way some celebs have private docs providing potent and lethal drugs that could do the job.

That makes me curious actually.... does anyone remember what it was he was taking that killed him? Apparently it would have had to be administered by a doc and then be left unattended for it to happen the way it did but I wonder if the substance is available via dnm's or whatever.

EDIT: the substance used my Michael Jackson is propofol and harder to obtain than N and would take considerable efforts to be used for ctb. Not a realistic option although a peaceful one.
 
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Someone123

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Oct 19, 2021
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It seems like a lot of celebrity suicides are from partial. Why would they not use N, the gold standard? They would definitely be able to afford any of the costs associated, whether ordering from D or traveling to Mexico or Peru. Wear a hat and glasses or something to lightly disguise their appearance when they go to the farmacia.
There are legal risks with acquiring N, so this isn't the gold standard for everyone- for many people there is no real gold standard, just the best compromise they can get.
 
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Cdlebrity suicides are pretty much the only responsible reason barbiturates were taken off the market. From what I can gather, they were helpful in many ways, properly fast-acting, universally used in anything insomnia, mania, migraines and they were OTC.

You can thank celebrities for that, Venezuela supporters, scientologists and all them.
 
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Even though we’re very aware of N and SN on here, I think the majority of people don’t know about it. I’ve been depressed and suicidal since I was 13 (I’m 31 now) and I hadn’t heard, read about or seen anything to do with those substances until I first found SS earlier this year. The first time I ever saw anything that slightly detailed N or SN in the news was only in the last year, too. So I assume most people just don’t know.. additionally, even if they did know, it might not have been their preference. Personally I would rather hang, jump or do carbon monoxide than drinking N or SN.
 
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Glovkenspiel

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Nov 12, 2021
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Even though we’re very aware of N and SN on here, I think the majority of people don’t know about it. I’ve been depressed and suicidal since I was 13 (I’m 31 now) and I hadn’t heard, read about or seen anything to do with those substances until I first found SS earlier this year. The first time I ever saw anything that slightly detailed N or SN in the news was only in the last year, too. So I assume most people just don’t know.. additionally, even if they did know, it might not have been their preference. Personally I would rather hang, jump or do carbon monoxide than drinking N or SN.
What’s it like to spend all those years suicidal? I’ve only felt this way for six months…
 
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What’s it like to spend all those years suicidal? I’ve only felt this way for six months…
It’s like Groundhog Day.. waking up and repeating the same day over and over again. No matter how hard I tried or the opportunities I gave myself in order to improve my life or lifestyle, I never changed and always felt the same
 
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Glovkenspiel

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Nov 12, 2021
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It’s like Groundhog Day.. waking up and repeating the same day over and over again. No matter how hard I tried or the opportunities I gave myself in order to improve my life or lifestyle, I never changed and always felt the same
Have you ever made an attempt?
 
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lastlife_

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Have you ever made an attempt?
My first attempt was on my 20th birthday - full suspension hanging. Found by my parents shortly after and in a psychiatric hospital the next day. The most recent was partial hanging in July which I was actually able to almost achieve unconsciousness without discomfort or struggle but I backed out at the last minute.. between those two there was some overdoses and weaker attempts at hanging. I once spent 2 hours at the train station trying to build up courage to jump but couldn’t.. After my attempt in July, I’ll likely go by partial when it’s time
 
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the mainstream media is not in the business of informing us they deliberately keep us uninformed, everyone should be taught how to die peacefully should the time arrive when you need it, we're kept in the dark to keep us obedient worker bees, i mean the mainstream media could of informed everyone about bitcoin but they don't.
 
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Glovkenspiel

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Nov 12, 2021
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My first attempt was on my 20th birthday - full suspension hanging. Found by my parents shortly after and in a psychiatric hospital the next day. The most recent was partial hanging in July which I was actually able to almost achieve unconsciousness without discomfort or struggle but I backed out at the last minute.. between those two there was some overdoses and weaker attempts at hanging. I once spent 2 hours at the train station trying to build up courage to jump but couldn’t.. After my attempt in July, I’ll likely go by partial when it’s time
That takes a tremendous amount of courage… There’s some logistical challenges with N But far less than what you’ve been through
 
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lastlife_

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That takes a tremendous amount of courage… There’s some logistical challenges with N But far less than what you’ve been through
To be honest, even if there were a bottle of N prepared in front of me or a rope, I would still choose the rope. I’ve done a lot of reading and research comparing various methods to find what’s right for me and N or SN just falls very low of the list of what I want to go through or experience for my death.. but you know, we’re all different and want different things
 
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Someone123

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Even though we’re very aware of N and SN on here, I think the majority of people don’t know about it. I’ve been depressed and suicidal since I was 13 (I’m 31 now) and I hadn’t heard, read about or seen anything to do with those substances until I first found SS earlier this year. The first time I ever saw anything that slightly detailed N or SN in the news was only in the last year, too. So I assume most people just don’t know.. additionally, even if they did know, it might not have been their preference. Personally I would rather hang, jump or do carbon monoxide than drinking N or SN.
Interesting. Iddon't know which is best- if you have a good location where you won't be stopped maybe co is the best of these. Or if you have a very high locaation to jump from jumping may be the best. Or if you have a very private location where no one would hear any noise full suspension might be the most certain method, though jumpong from a high enough place is right there and co, if you don't leave, is quite certain too. There are so many advantages if a person has a house to themselves with some decent space between houses.
 
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Fashion celebrity Isabella Blow killed herself by drinking paraquat, a herbicide.
 
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If you were a celebrity, would you want a Coroner to release to the press that you died by ingesting a poision that's primary use is to kill cats and dogs? Up until the 60's Nembutal was used regularly as a sleeping aid , available as pills. It was at this time that Dr's determined how easily a person could overdose in error and they were banned as prescriptions for humans for most countries. Vets have been using N forever because its cheap and it works and anyone who has witnessed their beloved pet being put to sleep would agree its a peaceful death. Celebrities have access to any drug money can buy and they continue to die of "accidental overdoses" everyday because doesn't that sound so much more classy than he drank Vet N or even that he committed suicide at all?
 
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If you were a celebrity, would you want a Coroner to release to the press that you died by ingesting a poision that's primary use is to kill cats and dogs? Up until the 60's Nembutal was used regularly as a sleeping aid , available as pills. It was at this time that Dr's determined how easily a person could overdose in error and they were banned as prescriptions for humans for most countries. Vets have been using N forever because its cheap and it works and anyone who has witnessed their beloved pet being put to sleep would agree its a peaceful death. Celebrities have access to any drug money can buy and they continue to die of "accidental overdoses" everyday because doesn't that sound so much more classy than he drank Vet N or even that he committed suicide at all?
I’m pretty sure most don’t even know what N or SN is. I never knew of either until I got on this site
 
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I’m pretty sure most don’t even know what N or SN is. I never knew of either until I got on this site

Yeah I don't buy the theory that N is too embarrassing so celebrities avoid it. There have been celebrities who hung themselves with vacuum cords. ODing with heroin does not sound any classier than using N. I have no clue where this other person is coming from.
 
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PeacefulTonic

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Aug 10, 2021
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Yeah I don't buy the theory that N is too embarrassing so celebrities avoid it. There have been celebrities who hung themselves with vacuum cords. ODing with heroin does not sound any classier than using N. I have no clue where this other person is coming from.
Agreed. And I’m sure they will try their best to hide the fact that N was used for ctb. They wouldn’t want more of the masses figuring out there’s a way to peacefully exit this shitty world
 
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eternalmelancholy

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Agreed. And I’m sure they will try their best to hide the fact that N was used for ctb. They wouldn’t want more of the masses figuring out there’s a way to peacefully exit this shitty world

You are right about that. The media puts out false information regarding suicide all the time. Like how they say sodium nitrate instead of nitrite. Some suicides they don't even mention the method at all.

All those botched attempts using a firearm is because of movies where the person puts the barrel on their temple or below their chin. When the correct technique is in the mouth tilted up so it hits the brain stem.
 
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Glovkenspiel

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Nov 12, 2021
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I’m pretty sure most don’t even know what N or SN is. I never knew of either until I got on this site
Hanging seems so much more violent. Maybe the logistics of procuring N could be found out and exposed. These celebrities did not want their intentions discovered beforehand. Also some of the attempts could have been impulsive.
 

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